Posted on 02/02/2007 3:01:03 PM PST by wagglebee
CDC does not do vaccine approval. That is the province of the FDA. Its statement on the vaccine can be found at http://www.fda.gov/cber/products/hpvmer060806qa.htm. It is highly unlikely that anyone will get a tumor from it as it is a typical antiviral vaccine that only includes proteins from the surface of the HPV strains.
It was tested on 20,000+ people in stage II trials. You have to get the vaccine before you get the virus to be sure of avoiding the disease. More information is available at http://ott.od.nih.gov/current_issues/issues-ended-09-18-2006.html
It is expensive and takes three jabs spaced over 6 months. Which means that requiring it may be silly. Let free people make their own decisions.
HPV virus is the most common STD. A girl's future husband may have it and not know it. If one wants to vastly lower one's daughter's risk of cervical cancer and genital warts, then why not?
And no, I don't work for a drug company.
I think it's way too early to mandate this vaccination for every girl. But I don't understand why a parent would be against it if their female children were in good health. If a virginal woman married a non-virginal man, she could get HPV from him during marital relations. If, heaven forbid, a virginal or married woman were raped, at least she would be protected from HPV.
There are plenty of good reasons to advise absinence outside of marriage, but the real world can pose complicated situations. What is the down side of having more protection against cancer?
And who says a nine-year-old needs a blow-by-blow description of how you get exposed to the virus? Can't parents just say it's a vaccine like the one against measles, except this one protects women against cancer?
No, there are exemptions available in every single state. A few only allow medical exemptions, most have religious exemptions, and many allow philosophical exemptions.
See this link for reported side effects.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1778223/posts?page=70#70
And see this link at the FDA which is the vaccine label and describes the frequency of reported adverse conditions in the clinical trials. Note that fainting, arthritis, fever, and autoimmune disorders were also reported by people who received a placebo.
http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/hpvmer013007LB.pdf
There used to be exemptions available, religious and otherwise.
This book was a tremendous help to us in navigating the turbulent waters of state law.
Confessions of a Medical Heretic by Robert Mendelsohn
http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Medical-Heretic-Robert-Mendelsohn/dp/0809241315
exactly. Can you imagine any scenario where a girl is thinking about having sex and says to herself..well, I'm vaccinated against HPV, so..WHAT THE HELL!!! It's ludicrous.
Agreed, also no one mentions that this "push campaign", which is really a colusion between Government/Political Correctness (liberal fads), and greedy corps whom would rather take special benefits through governmental interference in the market, and liberal politics.
Its really sad when in really I agree with the person whom said that the safest, and most viable answer to HPV/Cancer is Abstinance, sadly because of ~liberals worldview~ THEY WILL ignore this fact, and many will be hurt..
This vaccine should only be offered voluntarily to women eighteen or older. Just my opinion.
I don't like anything being forced on my children by strangers, ESPECIALLY brand-new, rapidly 'tested' wonder drugs that smell like snake oil.
Anyway, sorry for questioning the priesthood...I'll keep my heretical opinions to myself.
$150 per pop cost to the doc times 3 times = $450 + office visit cost x 3 times = ?. I've got a question for everybody. With all these "cost saving measures" by the insurance companies, has anybody's insurance rate gone down? Or even maintained?
I would like to see scientific data that shows that HPV prevails throughout the female population, including those claiming celebacy and monogamy.
If it can proven that the virus is everywhere and always causes cervical cancers, etc. then the numbers should show it clearly.
Otherwise, Governor Perry and the rest of the pro-vaccine crowd are pushing something unproven with a potential of future risks.
But far be it that scientific reason should reign over desires for power, social engineering, money motive and/or religious dogmatism
In Australia the drug was considered an Optional drug - you want it you pay for it. But, as some complained about the $600 price tag and pushed for it to be Subsidised or made free, it's now on the Free List. Meaning, other people pay for the drug for those who want it. No "Mandatory" stuff here for this drug.
Rubella for girls is mandatory and "free". Though, I think (not sure) it is optional - you don't have to have your daughter have it, but then she doesn't get to go to public school either.
Drugs like this need to be tested over a person's Life time before being able to conclude there is no harm done. Whose to say, you might not get HPV infections, but your liver's ability to function could be compromised. What happens in 15 years time when we have a nation of women coming down with liver failure - or infertility? (Can daughters then sue their parents for making them infertile?)
Nothing might happen. Then again, lots might. Which is why I said the only way to know is with a Life-Term-Length test. Anything else is guess work.
If one wants to vastly lower one's daughter's risk of cervical cancer and genital warts, then why not?
Because all vaccines and medications have side effects, and the potential for side effects should be weighed against the chance of contracting a disease, and also weighed against the potential severity of the disease itself. This one obviously has a pretty severe potential for disease, but the side effects can be pretty severe, too.
For example:
"Syncopal Episodes and Seizures. One-quarter of all reports filed after GARDASIL vaccination were for neurologic adverse events including loss of consciousness, syncope, syncopal events and seizures. An additional five reports included symptoms of dizziness and feeling faint.
Syncope is defined as a temporary suspension of consciousness due to generalized cerebral ischemia (inadequate blood flow and lack of oxygen). The reports of syncopal episodes and their descriptions are remarkable. A physician from Washington State reported that in one morning, three patients experienced syncopal episodes. On August 8th another physician's office reported that two patients experienced syncopal episodes on the same day."
Those are pretty bad side effects. Statistically speaking, they don't happen in alot of cases but they do happen.
"Perry didn't all of the sudden develop an interest in HPV, this is purely driven by cronyism."
That's sickening. People like that should be thrown out of office and brought up on charges.
Bump!
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