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Perry orders anti-cancer vaccine for schoolgirls
Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | Feb. 2, 2007 | LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON

Posted on 02/02/2007 1:28:44 PM PST by YCTHouston

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To: lqclamar

"Tell me - has anybody ever given you genital warts by coughing on you? "

That's what my ex-girlfriend always claimed! (cue rimshot)


201 posted on 02/02/2007 4:20:17 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

"Ordered? What happened to freedom to choose?"

Ahhh, but it's so much easier this way, skipping all that inneficiency of elected representatives. Just think of it as "streamlining democracy."


202 posted on 02/02/2007 4:22:17 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: metmom

Since the vaccine works to prevent cancer of the cervix, it does seem to make more sense to vaccinate the girls.

If you had a little boy and little girl, which would you rather see vaccinated to prevent cervical cancer? The one with the cervix, or the one without?

You only need to vaccinate one.


203 posted on 02/02/2007 4:23:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: stentorian conservative
I just don't see how abstinence education/parental rights have anything to do with a vaccine. When you take children to the doctor to get their MMR vaccine, do you tell them how each disease is contracted? It's not like your taking 'lil Suzy down to the Walgreen's and buying her a value pack of 20 condoms.
204 posted on 02/02/2007 4:24:28 PM PST by DalcoTX
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To: DalcoTX

Well if we were discussing MMR vaccine, I would agree with you. As it is, we are discussing a vaccine for a STD that can cause cancer.


205 posted on 02/02/2007 4:26:36 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: midwyf
You want the government to butt out of making a vaccine mandatory so that you can have the government regulate personal relationships?
206 posted on 02/02/2007 4:30:18 PM PST by DalcoTX
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To: secret garden

Insurance companies will cover this- they will see the cost benefit analysis and probably end up doing it for free. I stopped counting my medical bills at 200,000.,it's way more now (see my post 148.) I have great insurance, but my oncologist is not in my system so I have some out of pocket.
Insurance companies never want to pay for treatment if they can avoid it.


207 posted on 02/02/2007 4:35:55 PM PST by bigred41
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To: Dog Gone

From what I hear, they are testing a vaccine for boys now. When it comes out I will be going over all the relevent info and if it looks promising and good, he will get that shot along with all his other vaccines.
If this virus is at anywhere near the level they say it at (30 to 50% infection) what will it be for him in 15 years when he's 18? Will every person have this (if we do nothing) or will a much smaller percentage have this virus (if we use medical science to our advantage?)
I am saddened that so many people such a negative response to this-


208 posted on 02/02/2007 4:37:42 PM PST by bigred41
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To: bigred41

the point is - you make your own choices, and let others make theirs. there shouldn't be an "opt out" clause on this, there should be an "opt in" clause.


209 posted on 02/02/2007 4:39:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: bigred41
And I'm saddened to see so many people absolutely unconcerned that the government wants to make this mandatory. And so many FReepers mocking anyone who questions that!

It is not the vaccine itself that's the primary issue, it's who gets to decide. Clearly your experience leads you in one direction, and that's your right. But it's also the right of the next parent to decide for her own child without signing paperwork explaining why.

210 posted on 02/02/2007 4:47:00 PM PST by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: oceanview
the point is - you make your own choices, and let others make theirs. there shouldn't be an "opt out" clause on this, there should be an "opt in" clause.

Normally, I would agree with you about this sort of thing, but the girls who are at the highest risk of this probably have parents who never would opt in. "Parents" is probably being generous, since dad might not well live there.

You're certainly smart enough to opt out if you think that's a great decision, but the default ought to be to get the vaccine.

211 posted on 02/02/2007 4:48:11 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: YCTHouston

I want my vote back.


212 posted on 02/02/2007 4:51:26 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: workerbee
And I'm saddened to see so many people absolutely unconcerned that the government wants to make this mandatory

And I'm concerned that so many people don't understand that if you say "no thanks", you don't have to do it.

It kind of makes the word "mandatory" a mockery.

213 posted on 02/02/2007 4:53:39 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
but the girls who are at the highest risk of this probably have parents who never would opt in.

This is the same reasoning that gets us sex ed for kindergardners. "Oh, we have to teach them all the facts early, some parents just won't take the responsibility." It's getting us schools that track our kids weight and body mass to be sure they aren't eating the wrong foods. "Oh, Janie, be sure to tell mom to give you more carrots and fewer cookies!"

It Takes a Village to take away the rights of responsible parents, because others "might not" be responsible.

214 posted on 02/02/2007 4:55:16 PM PST by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: bigred41
I am saddened that so many people such a negative response to this-

I cannot speak for everyone, but my problem with this isn’t the vaccine itself per say, it’s the method by which the State has handled it. There are processes set in place for a reason. The entire course was circumvented. The term slippery slope comes to mind.

I am completely sympathetic to your very serious illness. I hope and pray for the best for you and your family. I can understand why this would be a sensitive subject for you. I can also understand why you would encourage all young women to consider this vaccine. However, it’s “consideration” that has been left out of the equation on the part of the Government.
215 posted on 02/02/2007 4:57:52 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: CindyDawg

Sorry :(

He's a different man since he got his big 39%


216 posted on 02/02/2007 4:58:21 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: stentorian conservative

The girl could get HPV from a rape and women have gotten the disease from her husband. They could immunize the kids without mentioning what causes the disease;-)


217 posted on 02/02/2007 4:58:28 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: workerbee

My commie brother and his hippie wife won't give their kids immunizations, either.

That's probably okay as long as the rest of us do. They can freeload off the fact that we've drastically reduced the chance of infection by immunizing our kids.

If everyone took the attitude of my brother, we'd have headlines about the polio crisis and how it's the fault of the government.

Suit yourself. Nobody is forcing you to do anything.


218 posted on 02/02/2007 5:00:36 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

DG, I don't agree that parents should have to "opt out," the decision should rest soley with them.

However, the biggest problem I have is that Perry did this by exuctive order, entirely bypassing the Legislature and any deliberative debate or citizen input. Think about it, we're having more discussion of the issue right here on this thread thany any of our elected representatives have had, and with just as much authority to do something about it.


219 posted on 02/02/2007 5:01:12 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: YCTHouston

Puck Ferry


220 posted on 02/02/2007 5:01:51 PM PST by don'tspeak4me
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