[Zakeet]

There is much, much more in the article.

It is a good read on the subject of education.

[word_warrior_bob]

I've never understood the whining of teachers.

They get the summers off like CHILDREN.

They get every holiday off when they do work like CHILDREN.

They can get a summer job, like CHILDREN.

They whine like....well...forget it

[mewzilla]

It's not the salaries that are the busting budgets. It's the pensions and bennies...

[jaime1959]

I didn't read the article, but does the hourly rate take into account the amount of time teachers spend preparing lessons and grading? My wife started teaching last year (high school), and spends, on average, 2 hours every night and about 6 hours on weekends with lesson prep and grading.

[Scarchin]

I don't have the time or inclination to refute this nonsense point by point.

Greene has been peddling this simplistic garbage for the past few years and I'm tired of explaining his errors to the uninformed.

[JustaDumbBlonde]

Another thread on this very article

[Buggman]

I think a lot of Freepers need to keep in mind that teachers end up doing a lot of "overtime" work in the evenings--creating quizzes, grading papers and essays, etc.--and do usually work at least some in the summer--developing the curriculum for the following year. By the time you factor in all those extra hours, I think the pay scale is a bit more equitable, particularly for beginning teachers who don't get paid as much and who don't have years of material built up that they can reuse.

I'm definitely not on the "teachers don't get paid enough" bandwagon, but I don't think they get paid too much either--particularly given how difficult it has become to teach, given that most are handcuffed by lawsuit-paranoid administration and uncaring parents.

Instead of talking about just throwing more money at the problem, how about if we talk about giving the teachers more tools to deal with disciplinary problems, which is what the ones I talk to really want.

[DaGman]

I'm not into bashing teachers. It's interesting that the article cites little more than "studies" to back up their assertion about teacher pay. Nothing more than a vapor article. Give hard numbers or keep your opinion to yourself because that's all you've got is an opinion. "I think" teachers make $34.06 an hour is hardly worthy of the WSJ.