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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

Posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser

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To: All
From the same Salon.com site as above we find this link as well...

While it is true that the committee reached consensus, the truth is more complicated. The committee's arrival at consensus was anything but easily reached. After the journal article was publicized, the hospital attempted to present a united front to the public. It asked that no doctor, aside from Diekema and Daniel Gunther, the endocrinologist who performed the surgery, speak to the media. Yet Salon has spoken to pediatricians and doctors inside the Seattle hospital who remain deeply troubled by the so-called Ashley Treatment. Although they were somewhat more circumspect than critics at other medical centers, some of whom called the disfiguring treatment appalling, they agreed that disapproval inside the hospital was more acute than has previously been known.

Behind the Pillow Angel

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181 posted on 02/09/2007 4:02:10 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb
>> Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick

Last seen as head of the civil rights division of the Justice Department, where he harassed patriots, propagated anti-white racism and obstructed justice for Bill Clinton. This guy was mean. If he has changed his ways, I'll be astonished.

However, he has a different role in a different setting now, and it is at least possible he could do something for Haleigh. It doesn't hurt to ask him to.

182 posted on 02/09/2007 4:09:41 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: BykrBayb
>> Their front page looked racist to me,

White supremacist, with orders for the best of the whites to breed, and everybody else should exit this earth.

183 posted on 02/09/2007 4:13:23 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> He said DSS on Dec. 12 decided to schedule a surprise visit to the family's home, but Rebecca died the next day before the visit could take place.

These bureaucrats sound like they're in kindergarten. "Oh, I know, let's sneak up on the house!"

184 posted on 02/09/2007 4:18:57 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: All
Hear it from the Brandeis Hoot. I thought I knew a lot about hooters until I read this.

Science is what "they" say it is, period. No discussion, decision final, it is all about feelings and algorically correct.

This comes from a real school lots of people have heard of and from somebody who is really smart, too.

Sample: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change came out with a report last week that hopefully put to rest any of the unexplainable hope that some in this country had about our role (as humans) in contributing to the now noticeable trends in Global Warming. Shhhhh, it is below zero here again this morning and I am still not able to plant the palm tree I am saving for the warmup. I can't decide whether this is from a student in the third grade or his/her teacher. It all blends in, showing my deficit in caffeine this morning.

The Terry Schiavo and stem cell controversies are the final symbols of Bush’s disdain for the academic sciences. In examining these recent debates, a strange definition of life has risen from Washington. Our President is a stern believer in the “culture of life” (meaning that he does not support the right of a woman to control her own reproductive system, yet executions and destructive wars are completely fine), and as such he tried his best to circumvent the constitution in 2005 to prevent a person whose brain had been reduced capacity of a sponge to finally be at peace. This obsession with the protection of every living cell has also extended itself into the stem-cell issue. Bush has put a hold to the development of research on new stem-cell lines, meaning that our scientists are being hampered by inadequate materials in the battle against Alzheimer’s, Multiple Sclerosis, and who knows how many more diseases.

Bush administration must embrace science

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185 posted on 02/09/2007 4:19:56 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit; bjs1779
More on Ashley and the biology lab project at the Mengele wing...

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The hospital did not respond to requests for comment for this story. But doctors say no one has perfected a method of determining mental age and attaching it to a specific treatment plan. The late psychometrics pioneer Louis Leon Thurstone said, "The mental age concept is a failure in that it leads to ambiguities and inconsistencies."

The results of such imprecision were brought to bear when the late Terri Schiavo's parents refused to accept that she was in a persistent vegetative state, a diagnosis that, according to University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Art Caplan, means the patient has no mental age.

Yet patients and their families crave a diagnosis, and when it comes to mental ability, brain age provides a number that's easy to relate to.

The Mysteries of Mental Age

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186 posted on 02/09/2007 4:29:04 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb

You can spread it with a butter knife. Does that help?


187 posted on 02/09/2007 4:33:36 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Spence said the agency again investigated in October. He said the family came in for a visit to DSS and appeared safe and that the agency tried to make a subsequent home visit in late November, but Carolyn Riley "resisted and evaded."

Something smells rotten here. Why did they investigate "again" in October? What is this "appeared safe" stuff? Why did they come back yet again, and if it was that urgent, why in the heck did they give up when Mrs. Riley "resisted and evaded"?

188 posted on 02/09/2007 4:35:23 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: All; wagglebee
Sounds like marketing abortion in Canada, thread by wagglebee.

OTTAWA, February 8, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – This week the Society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada (SOGC) recommended all pregnant women to be offered non-invasive prenatal genetic screening for fetal aneuploidy (chromosomal abnormality), with a particular emphasis on Down's syndrome. The Catholic Organization for Life and Family (COLF), an entity sponsored by the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Knights of Columbus, called the proposal “a disturbing step towards eugenics in our society.”

The National Post reported on January 6, 2007 that according to the executive vice president of the SOGC, this screening was being recommended "so that a greater number of women would have the option to terminate their pregnancies should fetal abnormalities be detected".

From Eliminating Disease to Eliminating the Deseased in Canada

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189 posted on 02/09/2007 4:39:07 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Being a guy, I am not sure what this Morris Sheppard is saying.

Hahahaha!

Btw, this wussy-wuss is missing the obvious. Looking at Hillary's spotty record will not prevent one feminist from voting for her with joy and gladness. Does he think that Kate Michelman, Jane Fonda and Gloria Steinem [which is not spelled Steinham, Mr. Wuss] will switch to Republican?

190 posted on 02/09/2007 4:47:15 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: All; wagglebee
More from wagglebee...

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new survey of doctors nationwide finds 52 percent said they oppose abortion and others wouldn't refer women considering an abortion to a place that does them. They survey also found some physicians believe it is appropriate to withhold information about abortion on moral grounds.

Surveys of Doctors Finds Half Oppose Abortion, Others Won't Refer

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191 posted on 02/09/2007 4:50:40 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> this screening was being recommended "so that a greater number of women would have the option to terminate their pregnancies should fetal abnormalities be detected".

Next thing you know, we'll be screening wives so husbands can have more options for terminating them. Husbands get bored, y'know. They need a little space to run around with floozies named Betti Sooee or I-didn't-catch-your-name at the diner or Jodi. And if you wives grumble about it, snuff you.

192 posted on 02/09/2007 4:53:48 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Surveys of Doctors Finds Half Oppose Abortion, Others Won't Refer

Meaning half of all doctors DON'T oppose abortion? Sick.

193 posted on 02/09/2007 4:56:29 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: All; wagglebee
When Hitler's gang did this it was atrocity. What is it now? Thread by wagglebee...

Miramar, FL (LifeNews.com) -- The owner of an abortion business has been arrested on charges that unlicensed employees were working there. Belkis Gonzalez, who owns the A Gyn of Miramar abortion center was already under investigation in the case of a baby who was apparently born alive following a botched abortion at another center.

Abortion Business Owner Arrested in Florida Over Unlicensed Employees

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194 posted on 02/09/2007 4:57:02 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ...when the late Terri Schiavo's parents refused to accept that she was in a persistent vegetative state

Along with most other witnesses. I think there were 33 doctors who disputed the PVS diagnosis, along with family friends, priests and lawyers. In fact, millions found out that Terri wasn't PVS from the videotapes. Now, that raises a question about the mental age of this "reporter," who won't look beyond his template, who won't investigate the facts, who is gullible enough to believe George Felos, and so on. This is woeful performance for anyone in the media. But then, the media have long since given up FINDING the news. Now they make it up to suit their politics.

195 posted on 02/09/2007 5:06:41 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ...a diagnosis that, according to University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Art Caplan, means the patient has no mental age.

If we could measure moral quotient (MQ), we'd have to give up on Art Caplan. I did catch him saying something moral once, and was duly astonished, but that doesn't give him a score much above floor level. Can we allow this moral imbecile to go on wasting scarce air and food? Yes -- tempting though it may be to listen to HIS advice about how to dispose of useless eaters.

196 posted on 02/09/2007 5:18:03 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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To: T'wit

For Caplan, MQ=MT


197 posted on 02/09/2007 5:39:12 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

They claim that they are "eliminating the disease by eliminating the diseased," which could actually serve as the title to the culture of death's handbook.


198 posted on 02/09/2007 5:42:45 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: T'wit; 8mmMauser
Along with most other witnesses. I think there were 33 doctors who disputed the PVS diagnosis, along with family friends, priests and lawyers. In fact, millions found out that Terri wasn't PVS from the videotapes.

This is all nothing more than a smokescreen. When did PVS become a death sentence? Who the hell cares what a person's medical condition is, it still doesn't give anyone the right to decide to kill them.

199 posted on 02/09/2007 5:46:28 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
>> When did PVS become a death sentence?

A point that cannot be repeated often enough.

Still, we need to shoot down the template lies, too.

200 posted on 02/09/2007 7:00:25 AM PST by T'wit (We have more and better proof of Original Sin than of evolution and global warming combined.)
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