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NFL won't let church show game
Sports Illustrated ^ | 2/1/07 | AP

Posted on 02/01/2007 12:49:16 PM PST by Publius Valerius

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To: Publius Valerius

The place to get even with the NFL is with your respective state legislators who vote for public funding of stadiums and tell them no more public funding.


101 posted on 02/01/2007 2:21:17 PM PST by SoothsayerToo
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To: Junior
Re: 37
Sunday is not the Sabbath. Nothing in Scripture changed the Sabbath from the seventh day to the first day.

Matthew 28:1
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.


The Greek (the language which the New Testament was first written) uses the same word/spelling for Sabbath and week ('sabbaton').
I don't pretend to be a Greek grammarian, but at the Resurrection, there seems to be the ending of one Sabbath, and the establishment of a new one: 'At the end of th sabbath...as it began to dawn on the first day of the sabbath'.
The other three Gospels make similar references to the first day of the Sabbath (week).

Or you can just go with the statements in Acts and 1 Corinthians that show that Believers now gathered on the first day of the week:

Acts 20:7a
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread,

1 Corinthians 16:2
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

But be that as it may, I'm not going to begrudge anyone who wants to worship on Saturdays. Just worship the LORD:

Romans 14
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

102 posted on 02/01/2007 2:22:12 PM PST by El Cid (Seek ye the Lord while He might be found, call ye upon Him while He is near...)
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To: Stone Mountain

What law is that?

"Pastor John D. Newland said he told the NFL his church would not charge anyone and that it would drop the use of the forbidden words."


103 posted on 02/01/2007 2:27:08 PM PST by TBP
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To: Stone Mountain

What law is that?

"Pastor John D. Newland said he told the NFL his church would not charge anyone and that it would drop the use of the forbidden words."


104 posted on 02/01/2007 2:27:09 PM PST by TBP
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To: L98Fiero
I know they said the fee was to cover snacks, but I've been to plenty of church functions and never been charged for snacks.

Our churc does it that way all the time. We show a fair number of spiritual movies and we can't charge for most of them, so we just take a head count and charge people for popcorn, beverages, and snacks. We do the same thing at our choir concerts.

105 posted on 02/01/2007 2:29:51 PM PST by TBP
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To: RavenATB
Law, or no law, what's the point of the NFL raising hell about a Church showing their home team in the Superbowl, unless they truly think that in doing so the Church is somehow realistically going to deprive the NFL of money.

Its a point of copyright law that most do not understand. If you knowingly allow anyone to violate your copyright, that copyright can become invalid. If they allow a church to do it, then anyone can do it.

The NFL is not sneaking around spying on churches and really could care less if churches do this. This church promoted the event and it came to the NFLs attention. They are obligated to say no and would be derelict to the interests of their owners if they didn't.

106 posted on 02/01/2007 2:31:59 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Cheburashka

WWW.NFLMedia.com

Welcome to NFL Accredited Media

"NFLMedia.com is for media use only. Access to this site requires registration and approval.

If you've been granted credentials for Super Bowl XLI but have forgotten your password , please click here."

Apparently, they don't want to be contacted.


107 posted on 02/01/2007 2:32:21 PM PST by TBP
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To: El Cid
So you're saying an unchanging God changed? BTW, Matthew 28:1 there reaffirms the Sabbath was on the last day of the week.

None of the other quotes say the Sabbath was moved to Sunday. The disciples broke bread on Sunday, but it doesn't say they observed the Sabbath. Technically, any day could be a "day of worship," but only Saturday can be the Sabbath (by definition).

108 posted on 02/01/2007 2:32:29 PM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Larry Lucido; cyclotic
Re 58, 66, etc...
...What activities, that are licit on other days, would detract from the holiness of the Sabbath? Do parishioners have to just sit around all day in contemplative meditation, or is it permissible to go do something like take in a movie, rock climb, skeet shoot, kickbox, have sex, or even (gag me) breakdance?

Its entirely your call. I'd just keep Isaiah 58 in the forefront of your mind:

Isaiah 58
13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

109 posted on 02/01/2007 2:33:44 PM PST by El Cid (Seek ye the Lord while He might be found, call ye upon Him while He is near...)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

That's a good common sense question.


110 posted on 02/01/2007 2:34:19 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: colt1911
This could "open the door" so to speak, for the church to evangelize down the road

Which may well be the NFL's problem. I wonder if they'd harass a mosque that planned the same thing.

111 posted on 02/01/2007 2:34:44 PM PST by TBP
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To: rod1
Because sports bars hurt Nielsen ratings since the congregation of viewers is undercounted.

The cable/satellite providers charge sports bars based on the number of seats in their establishment and Nielson etc know what those numbers are and factor them in.

112 posted on 02/01/2007 2:36:28 PM PST by Ditto
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To: nascarnation
The "admission" this "greedy" church was going to charge was a nomial amount to cover the cost of snacks.

Then charge for the snacks directly, rather than admission.

113 posted on 02/01/2007 2:36:40 PM PST by TBP
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Depends on your time zone.

Even on the West Coast, the Super Bowl doesn't start until 3:30-4. It shouldn't interfere with the service.

114 posted on 02/01/2007 2:38:21 PM PST by TBP
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To: L98Fiero

So if I have a private party at my home and project it on a screen bigger than 55 inches, it's illegal. Should I turn myself in now.


115 posted on 02/01/2007 2:38:28 PM PST by Roux
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To: TBP
What law is that? "Pastor John D. Newland said he told the NFL his church would not charge anyone and that it would drop the use of the forbidden words."

So your contention is that it's not against the law and what the NFL is doing is completely illegal?
116 posted on 02/01/2007 2:38:38 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: indylindy

That's ridiculous. Everyone refers to the Super Bowl.


117 posted on 02/01/2007 2:39:30 PM PST by TBP
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To: BritExPatInFla

Whatever, it will be showing at our church. Ha.


118 posted on 02/01/2007 2:40:05 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Publius Valerius

What if you have a 60 inch television? ;^)


119 posted on 02/01/2007 2:40:08 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Publius Valerius

The NFL is being penny wise and pound foolish.

this is a defect in the Neilson system.

So now all this chuch need do is sell a spagetti luncheon and advertise they have a projection screen TV without mentioning the foot ball.

Quite frankly the more social the event becomes the better it is for the NFL.

Also for the fact it is IN the church as part of the church's regular operation, then the NFL has nothing to complain about with their own reasoning.

Somewhere in the NFL there is a desk jockey suffering from cranial rectal self insertion.


120 posted on 02/01/2007 2:44:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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