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Boston Bomb Scare: Outraged Menino vows no mercy for stunt - Sham suspect jailed
Boston Herald ^ | February 1, 2007 | Laura Crimaldi & Michelle McPhee

Posted on 02/01/2007 3:16:22 AM PST by billorites

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To: bondjamesbond

Didn't say that. Just pointing out that those devices don't necessarily cause panic in a city population.


281 posted on 02/01/2007 10:59:53 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: billorites

It's not Turner's fault that the people of the city of Boston are TOTAL F****** MORONS.


282 posted on 02/01/2007 11:01:04 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: bondjamesbond
I agree with you, it's not at all surprising that one of the cities in which this campaign was going on responded in this manner, however I disagree that it was the probable intent of the viral marketing campaign.

It did, in fact, work out better than anyone could possibly have hoped for the fine people at Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and if you insist on calling the post-modern work of genius that is ATHF 'stupid' I shall have to become deeply sarcastic and not at all nice towards you.

Also, I commend the two artists for their behavior at their press conference. After being advised by their lawyers to not make any comments regarding the case, instead of responding with "no comment" to everything they had a little fun at the expense of the press, which is awesome.
283 posted on 02/01/2007 11:17:52 AM PST by 49th (This space for rent.)
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To: July 4th
TOTAL F****** MORONS.

Kennedy, Kerry, Frank, Menino. We really didn't need any more evidence

284 posted on 02/01/2007 11:22:40 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: bondjamesbond
Whenever you see the words "goosestepper" or "Nazi" in an argument, just substitute "person who does not agree with me".

When did you call you a goosestepper or Nazi? I was refering to Boston.

285 posted on 02/01/2007 11:32:29 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: bondjamesbond
Unfortunately, due to the configuration of the first one they found, they apparently had to close off a major highway before they could investigate. Once something like that is done, it's too late. The Big Red Button has already been pressed.

They closed off the street because they are incopetent. There was no need to do that. The size of the device determines the threat level, not the police ignorance. Much of this device was exposed, they feared the batterys had explosive. However this had such a small capacity there was no need to do more than close a couple of lanes for a short time.

Chicago managed to remove 20 of them without so much a peep in national news, let alone a nuclear meltdown.

286 posted on 02/01/2007 11:39:17 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Stone Mountain
Didn't say that. Just pointing out that those devices don't necessarily cause panic in a city population.

My revolver won't necessarily shoot you, either.

It is not at all surprising that those devices caused the result they did, don't you think? Predictable, even.

287 posted on 02/01/2007 11:39:37 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
They closed off the street because they are incopetent.

How about you take over the job commanding a bomb squad for a month or so, and we can all sit back with the benefit of hindsight and snipe at you after the fact.

Monday morning quarterbacks never throw an interception.

288 posted on 02/01/2007 11:43:28 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: bondjamesbond
It didn't cause any panic at all in 9 of the 10 cities tis promotion took place in.

If I put one bullet in a revolver, spin the barrel, point it at your head and pull the trigger, it's "No Blood No Foul" if you happen to get lucky?

So tell me again, besides possibly not getting a license to put up the electronic sign, what law did they break?

Why is it their fault the police over reacted? They have gone ape before over briefcases left on park bench's. Did they charge the absent minded person for leaving it there? If so what was the law they broke?

289 posted on 02/01/2007 11:44:34 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: bondjamesbond

It's not something that would panic me. Others are obviously different.


290 posted on 02/01/2007 11:46:13 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: bondjamesbond
They closed off the street because they are incompetent. How about you take over the job commanding a bomb squad for a month or so, and we can all sit back with the benefit of hindsight and snipe at you after the fact.

Monday morning quarterbacks never throw an interception.

Just so happens I work with a bomb squad. The major mistake here was the idiot who called the media. If that was Turner then they have a case against them. If not then they have no more than failure to obtain a permit for the sign.

291 posted on 02/01/2007 11:47:39 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Stone Mountain
It's not something that would panic me.

I don't think anybody (besides the hyperventilating media types) was in a panic. I dare say the folks on the bomb squad were calm, cool, and collected throughout the operation. I think they also did what they thought they needed to do to keep themselves and the public safe at all times. I will not second guess their judgement in the field.

292 posted on 02/01/2007 11:50:00 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: driftdiver
It was a stupid stunt and the yokels in Boston over reacted. The only thing they haven't done is blamed Bush, yet.

I don't think a reasonable person would have responded in such a manner and my bet the jury won't think so either.

This was a 9/10 guerrilla marketing stunt attempted in a post-9/11 environment. The paradigm has changed. Apparently they were unaware of it.

Apparently you are, too.

CA....

293 posted on 02/01/2007 11:50:24 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: bondjamesbond
It is not at all surprising that those devices caused the result they did, don't you think? Predictable, even.

It's not suprising that packages and briefcases left on a park bench cause a similar but smaller reaction. So should we outlaw briefcases just because some people got too involved watching "24" the night before? The Boston are as predictable as most lefty totalitarians are.

294 posted on 02/01/2007 11:51:12 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Chances Are
This was a 9/10 guerrilla marketing stunt attempted in a post-9/11 environment. The paradigm has changed. Apparently they were unaware of it.

It has been 5 and a half years since 9/11. The Patriot act has largely been repealed, people are no longer concerned about this. The paradigm has shifted back, but apparently you are not aware of this.

295 posted on 02/01/2007 11:53:39 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
So tell me again, besides possibly not getting a license to put up the electronic sign, what law did they break?

Unfortunately, they probably broke somekind of an unknown aggrevated littering ordinance, and will get convicted for that.

Ultimately, it comes down to intent. If the state can demonstrate that they intended to cause a police response like this, they surely broke the law, and should pay a serious penalty.

If I had my druthers, ultimately it would come down to a question of intent. But as I said above, they'll probably wind up with some kind of an aggrevated littering infraction that does not require such proof, which would be an unjust result, IMHO.

296 posted on 02/01/2007 11:54:26 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: Chances Are

"This was a 9/10 guerrilla marketing stunt attempted in a post-9/11 environment. The paradigm has changed. Apparently they were unaware of it."

These guys are idiots but the issue is whether lite brites can be taken for bombs. Pretty obviously an item that looks like a bomb shouldn't be treated lightly.

The other cities didn't go to this extent. So did Boston over react or did all those other cities under react?


297 posted on 02/01/2007 11:54:28 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: bondjamesbond
Ultimately, it comes down to intent.

So you think people should be prosecuted for what they think rather than what they do? In reality all they did was put up signs without a sign permit.

298 posted on 02/01/2007 11:58:45 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
So should we outlaw briefcases just because some people got too involved watching "24" the night before?

As I said before, if I had my druthers, it would come down to a question of intent. There is a big difference between accidently leaving a briefcase in a park and intentionally provoking a police response.

299 posted on 02/01/2007 11:59:35 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid

Oh, it has? When did that happen?

CA....


300 posted on 02/01/2007 12:01:19 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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