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Myth has made the man: 9/11 not enough for Rudy's Prez run
Daily News ^ | January. 31, 2007

Posted on 01/31/2007 8:47:58 AM PST by Reagan Man

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I asked the Admin Moderator to remove my statement. My apologies to all who were offended.


41 posted on 01/31/2007 9:26:57 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
President Clinton had undeniable charm and charisma which made it a lot easier for unintelligent women to ignore his philandering.

Giuliani does not have the same affect or effect.

42 posted on 01/31/2007 9:28:40 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Reagan Man

I notice the continued persistence in asking us who we will vote for. Their candidate isn't even in the race, but they expect us to commit to him anyway. Can you believe this?


43 posted on 01/31/2007 9:30:16 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: wideawake
True.

Maybe it's the emotional connection they made with him on 9/11. Women do tend to vote on emotion.

44 posted on 01/31/2007 9:30:57 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Gingrich/Pence 2008)
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To: Reagan Man

My brother lived in NY during the Rudy years, and he's in awe of him. Rudy's the real deal.


45 posted on 01/31/2007 9:32:41 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: wideawake
What lies? The thrust of this article is that Rudy Giuliani`s entire life is locked in the time frame of 9-11. He's done nothing since he left office as the liberal Mayor of America's most liberal big city. That was over five years ago. Its only a hit piece if you support Rudy. Otherwise, I find nothing wrong in its content. Its a pretty fair article. It asks all the right questions.

ALL candidates running for elected office are subjected to scrutiny. The good, the bad and the ugly parts of their political record are open for analysis and evaluation. Its time some people faced reality. Rudy is the wrong man to be the GOP standard bearer in 2008.

46 posted on 01/31/2007 9:37:33 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: I see my hands
"Giuliani has as much chance to be elected president as Bob Saget does."

Has Bob Saget announced his candidacy? Rudy hasn't.

47 posted on 01/31/2007 9:39:20 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: tkathy
>>>>>Rudy's the real deal.

Only to liberals and conservatives who've lost their minds.

48 posted on 01/31/2007 9:40:44 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Reagan Man

You "forgot" to credit the author of this article is Mike Lupica, a sports writer.


49 posted on 01/31/2007 9:41:30 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: cgk
Are you going to work for an electable conservative to win the nomination or will you sit and whine about the party leaving you so you won't vote for the Republican candidate?
50 posted on 01/31/2007 9:42:55 AM PST by sticker
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To: Reagan Man
More from Mike Lupica from the Daily News: Loopica lets loose on Bush's troop plan...


51 posted on 01/31/2007 9:43:59 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Reagan Man


The author.
52 posted on 01/31/2007 9:47:51 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: zook

Rudy is only "moderate" in comparison with current Democrats. He's a liberal by any rational measurement.

That said, if he's the candidate, I'll vote for him. Which is more than I can say about McCain.


53 posted on 01/31/2007 9:50:08 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: jimbo123

Okay, Mike Lupica is the messenger. Fine. So whats the problem? Its a pretty blunt assessment and truthful. Now address the issues, not the author. What is so great about Rudy Giuliani that makes him presidential material? What makes him such a good choice as the GOP standard bearer in 2008? Rudy`s liberal record is the issue. Not Mike Lupica.


54 posted on 01/31/2007 9:52:18 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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55 posted on 01/31/2007 9:54:05 AM PST by jimbo123
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Okay, after four posts, do you have anything relevent to offer about the issue, Rudy Giuliani`s liberal record. Or is your intention to spam the thread with juvenile crapola?


56 posted on 01/31/2007 9:56:57 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Reagan Man
Okay, Mike Lupica is the messenger.

Why are you trying to pass along the word of a Cut and Run liberal sports writer as gospel?

Do you agree with Lupica's policy of retreating from Iraq and bashing everyone who doesn't agree with him?
57 posted on 01/31/2007 9:58:03 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Reagan Man
What lies?

It's not my fault you were too lazy to read post 28, which I addressed specifically to you.

The thrust of this article is that Rudy Giuliani`s entire life is locked in the time frame of 9-11.

Which is a false thesis. His national fame comes from the exposure he received on 9/11, but his consulting business is predicated on his successful anticrime and quality of life initiatives which he formulated and implemented well before 9/11.

His claim to consideration for office is his wildly successful eight years as chief executive of a city with a population larger than the population of 38 US states.

He probably thinks that if somebody can run for President on the strength of being governor of Arkansas - a state with a population the size of Brooklyn, one NYC's five boroughs - he can run for President on the strength of being mayor of NYC.

ALL candidates running for elected office are subjected to scrutiny. The good, the bad and the ugly parts of their political record are open for analysis and evaluation.

Precisely. Which is why there is no reason to just make stuff up.

The author of this piece has to dismiss Giuliani's pre-9/11 record as mayor without discussing it, because if it were actually discussed it would make Giuliani look great.

Its only a hit piece if you support Rudy.

No, it's a hit piece because it is void of substance and contains lies.

I freely admit that I think Giuliani was a good mayor, but I certainly don't support him for President.

Rudy is the wrong man to be the GOP standard bearer in 2008.

Of course he is. He's just an out-and-out leftist on social policy.

58 posted on 01/31/2007 9:58:20 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Little Ray

I'll vote for McCain. If he wins the nod, I'll surely vote for him over any Dem. WOT is my #1 issue and McCain has been pretty steadfast on that.

I'm such a one-issue guy, I'd even vote for Joe Lieberman.


59 posted on 01/31/2007 10:04:32 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: jimbo123

Obviously, Lupica struck a nerve with you Rudy-Rooters. The issue remains Rudy Giuliani`s liberal politics. This article spells out in no uncertain terms that Rudy has been an empty suit for the last five years. After leaving NYCity with a pre-9/11 deficit of $2-billion and a $42-billion debt, Rudy went on to make millions of dollars off of his media performances in the aftermath of 9-11. He's written books, made hundreds of speeches and received many awards. Does that qualify Rudy to be POTUS? I think not. I say NO. What do you say?


60 posted on 01/31/2007 10:06:57 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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