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California may ban conventional lightbulbs by 2012
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 1/30/07 | Bernie Woodall

Posted on 01/30/2007 6:54:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Vision Thing

I figured....I just wanted to see a pic of Tom in his pomp...


41 posted on 01/30/2007 7:10:39 PM PST by relictele
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To: relictele
I don't want "incentives to change behavior", either.

If your activity is legal, then you should be left alone.

42 posted on 01/30/2007 7:10:58 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: NormsRevenge

I started using energy efficient light bulbs and lighting a few years ago. I also try to use daylight color temp bulbs as much as possible.

Just common sense as I see it. No big deal.


43 posted on 01/30/2007 7:11:23 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Next comes the bill to help the poor buy the now suddenly more expensive compact flourescents and LED bulbs....


44 posted on 01/30/2007 7:11:57 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: dudewheresmytank

Is it a Ferguson?

Al Bundy recommends a Ferguson.


45 posted on 01/30/2007 7:12:58 PM PST by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What do we do with the excess bulbs this idiot wants to outlaw? Why throw them on his front lawn! Oh wait, his gardener will get hit with broken glass, which will end up with an unpaid emergency room visit...


46 posted on 01/30/2007 7:13:36 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: NormsRevenge

The bulbs are great but not if I have to.


47 posted on 01/30/2007 7:14:16 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Compact fluorescent lightbulbs (CFLs) use about 25 percent of the energy of conventional lightbulbs.

I remember reading on some lefty site where CFLs were being blamed for causing ailments such as chronic fatigue syndrome.

Maybe those folks can cause a health scare and override the "save energy or else" lefties.

48 posted on 01/30/2007 7:14:39 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: teenyelliott

Ah but that's just it...they aren't ever satisfied with recommendations and guidelines. The devil finds plenty of work for idle legislative hands who want to enact the silliest and most intrusive laws.


49 posted on 01/30/2007 7:14:49 PM PST by relictele
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To: Carry_Okie
Are the antique fixtures for candelabra bulbs? I was surprised to find out they now have little CF candelabra bulbs. This enabled me to not replace my old ceiling fan in my guest bedroom (although truth be told, they don't put out very much light).

I'm hardly for stupid laws like ones banning incandescent bulbs, but I have made every light in my house CF. Some of them seem to have pretty good light quality. But they all save money on electricity and seldom need to be replaced. Beware off-brands, however: I bought three bulbs for a ceiling fixture, and it wasn't three months before I noticed two of them had burned out. I replaced them with GE bulbs, and a couple of years later I had one burn out.

50 posted on 01/30/2007 7:15:27 PM PST by megatherium
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To: NormsRevenge

I hate fluorescent bulbs. They buzz & hum & flicker. < :(


51 posted on 01/30/2007 7:15:54 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Our freedoms are being stripped away, one by one.)
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To: Carry_Okie

http://www.smarthome.com/903220.html

Why don't these bulbs fit "antique fixtures"?


52 posted on 01/30/2007 7:16:18 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: relictele

The anti-Capitalists on the Free Republic (believe it or not, they do exist) absolutely hate Edison for how hard he drove his people. Anti-Capitalists are wussies. To heck with them.

All I know is that Humanity will never be able to repay Edison for all the good that he has given to us.


53 posted on 01/30/2007 7:16:30 PM PST by Vision Thing (Mister Democrat is a Son of a Vichy)
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To: NormsRevenge

And in 2013 they will realize that all CFLs contain that eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil mercury...


54 posted on 01/30/2007 7:17:54 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: NormsRevenge

All those roofs and paved areas are too dark, absorbing solar energy, increasing global heat.

We need to increase the albedo (reflectance) of man-made surfaces to counteract the melting of global ice, which is very reflective.

Pass a law to add a white dye to pavement, and require all roofing to be white.

This is not my original idea.


55 posted on 01/30/2007 7:19:00 PM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: dudewheresmytank
remember last time they helped us by regulating household items in the name of the enviroment? my toilet won't stop clogging

That was Federal, not State. It was a bill sponsored by algore...

56 posted on 01/30/2007 7:19:00 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: NormsRevenge

they will use global warming to control every aspect of our lives - how we live, what we drive, how we use electricity, etc.


57 posted on 01/30/2007 7:19:54 PM PST by oceanview
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To: NormsRevenge
Nice to see the California Legislature happily rearranging the light bulbs on the Titanic. Gits.

A "Fantastic" Budget

Senator Tom McClintock
Date: January 19, 2007
Publication Type: Column

According to Gov. Schwarzenegger, California’s financial condition is “fantastic.” Spending has been brought under control, the budget has been balanced and our debt is being paid down. But as Churchill once said, “It is not possible to state the opposite of the truth with greater precision.”

To the governor’s credit, he has proposed some long-overdue spending reforms, most notably conforming state welfare eligibility standards to federal law.

But there’s very little else to praise about the Governor’s handling of the state’s finances. In fact, spending is growing faster than it did under Gray Davis, the state is now running the biggest deficit in its history, and the only way it can pay its bills is because of massive borrowing carried over from 2004, contributing to a doubling of the state’s debt burden in just three years.

When Gov. Schwarzenegger claims the budget is balanced, he ignores his Finance Department’s own figures that report a $7.6 billion shortfall in the 2006 budget ($1 billion worse than Davis’ worst year in 2000). His proposed 2007 budget adds $1.9 billion more to the state’s ocean of red ink.

The Governor justifies his claim that the budget is balanced by concocting a new accounting concept he calls the “net operating deficit.” Here’s how it works: to enable his claim that he is paying down debt when it is actually increasing, the Governor made some pre-payments during the last two years – akin to paying more than the minimum balance on your credit cards. But to hide the deficit he created on the other side of the ledger, he simply doesn’t enter those payments in the state’s checkbook. (Don’t try this at home, boys and girls, or you’ll be hearing from your banker).

California can get away with such bookkeeping gimmickry for a while because unprecedented borrowing in 2004 and a revenue windfall last year allowed Gov. Schwarzenegger to begin the year with $10.8 billion in the bank. The state’s deficit spending will nearly exhaust that cushion by next year under the Governor’s proposal.

Meanwhile, borrowing is now completely out of control. When Gov. Schwarzenegger took office, the percentage of the general fund required for debt service was three percent. Since then, that burden has doubled to six percent and will exceed eight percent next year. Put another way, our minimum credit card payment now consumes more tax money than the budget of the entire University of California. Ironically, the state’s debt service ratio never exceeded 2.2 percent throughout the 1960’s, when California was at its zenith in public works construction.

The new budget purports fiscal restraint – growing the general fund just one percent (after a staggering 30 percent during the last three years). But this is based on some very shaky assumptions that are very unlikely to materialize.

State revenues in 2006 were projected to grow just 1.2 percent, and actual revenues are now falling behind even his modest goal. The Governor’s 2007 budget is predicated on robust 7.1 percent growth next year. If the state’s economy merely does not deteriorate any further, it will produce a $7.5 billion deficit – placing the state on the brink of insolvency within 18 months.

But even assuming that every one of the Governor’s calculations is correct, and the Governor’s budget is adopted intact, the condition of the state’s finances will be this:

  • The cumulative four-year general fund deficit under this administration will be $5.2 billion, compared to $4.2 billion during the five years under Gray Davis.
  • State general fund spending will have increased at an average annual rate of 7.9 percent, compared with 7.1 percent under Davis.
  • The state’s debt service ratio, which Davis reduced from four percent to three percent, will have more than doubled – and by the following year nearly tripled.

The Oxford English Dictionary notes that the original meaning of the word “fantastic” as, “existing only in imagination.” Perhaps that’s what the Governor means.

Senator Tom McClintock represents the 19 th Senate District in the California Legislature. His website address is www.sen.ca.gov/mcclintock.


58 posted on 01/30/2007 7:20:31 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: elkfersupper

makes one wonder...can we make one secede...like all the blue ones!


59 posted on 01/30/2007 7:20:43 PM PST by jrd
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To: Ramius

I don't know if you can dim CF bulbs. But we have fluorescent lighting that can be dimmed, at the university I teach at. How that is accomplished, I have no idea, but it works with no flicker.


60 posted on 01/30/2007 7:20:51 PM PST by megatherium
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