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Another grandpa dead because of an undercover drug squad.
1 posted on 01/30/2007 1:12:57 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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"My uncle asked the officer, which he didn't know at the time he was a police officer, to leave his property and he didn't," Evans said.

Is there a legal opinion regarding this situation? (Legit Question)


2 posted on 01/30/2007 1:17:54 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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Well at least he is truly free now. Prayers go out to his family.


3 posted on 01/30/2007 1:18:08 PM PST by LuxMaker
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The War on Citizens , errr, I mean Drugs, still marches on.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 1:18:16 PM PST by moonman
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It is against the law to sell drugs, purchase drugs or possess drugs. The cops were doing their jobs in arresting people. Grandpa drew down on the wrong guys.

Sad ending.


5 posted on 01/30/2007 1:18:52 PM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: FreedomCalls

I recently saw one of those cop shows taking place in Florida.

The cop was saying the thing they feared most were armed citizens. The reason being the cops behave and looked like criminals. They don't recognize people's property, climbing on roofs, going through yards etc.

Whether the cops properly identified themselves is a big question. A related question, is would or should someone believe them, especially considering so many cop impersonators.

While more facts or coverup to is to come, my bet was this was a wrongful death.


8 posted on 01/30/2007 1:22:13 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Conservatism - For Thinking People)
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Hey, if incidents like these prevent just one American adult from smoking a joint, it's worth it. We need paramilitary raids in our communities to keep us safe.


9 posted on 01/30/2007 1:22:34 PM PST by AmericanHunter
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Another grandpa dead because of an undercover drug squad.

Oh goody. Another "I'm a 'libertarian' and thus don't need facts" thread.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 1:25:39 PM PST by rogue yam
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I suspect that these undercover officers were selling the drugs and their targets were beig arrested down the street. The old guy probably called the police and after a time went out to confront them.

This is just my guess based on quotes from the story. Sad day. The old timer meant well and was probably a good force in the neighborhood.


16 posted on 01/30/2007 1:33:58 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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Why didn't the officers leave his property?


32 posted on 01/30/2007 2:14:21 PM PST by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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Sad, but bad idea to point your gun at someone unless they are threatening you. Old west rules, you draw first, that is a threat that justifies return fire.


41 posted on 01/30/2007 2:33:17 PM PST by JTHomes
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On a related note:

http://www.rense.com/general75/emp.htm


42 posted on 01/30/2007 2:34:27 PM PST by GourmetDan
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If the police tell you to put down your gun, put it down!


45 posted on 01/30/2007 2:45:16 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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"My uncle asked the officer, which he didn't know at the time he was a police officer, to leave his property and he didn't," Evans said.

Any grammar mavens out there care to try to diagram this gem? Me, I'm noodling out what figure of speech "which" is here.
49 posted on 01/30/2007 3:00:31 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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"My uncle asked the officer, which he didn't know at the time he was a police officer, to leave his property and he didn't," Evans said.

Undercover Officer = Secret Police maybe the cop should have been carrying a badge and LEFT the man's property when ordered to.

80 posted on 01/30/2007 4:19:58 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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Wonder if his dog survived?

They seem to like killing dogs too.....

Seems kinda sad when you get killed by the "good guys"< /sarcasm>.

Well, they did get administrative leave at least....(kill an innocent, get a vacation!)

86 posted on 01/30/2007 5:12:34 PM PST by glasseye
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Gun fire was exchanged? Wouldn't both parties need to fire their weapons, for that to be the proper terminology?


98 posted on 01/30/2007 11:59:34 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Fear of offending those rabidly determined to destroy you, is good manners turned malignant.)
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If Mr. Singletary was an illegal drug runner the officer would get the death sentence. Killing an American citizen will get him a promotion.
113 posted on 01/31/2007 2:42:42 AM PST by Razz Barry
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No...Another Grandpa dead because he was stupid and did not put his gun down with AUTHORITIES told him to. The "cops" should be charged with the death. When I first read the story I thought it was going to be that Grandpa deserved to die, but that simply is not the case.


115 posted on 01/31/2007 2:46:02 AM PST by napscoordinator
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IMO, the failure of those officers to properly identify themselves ought place them squarely under no less than negligent homicide charges and more probable murder two.

It ought be that when UC LEO fail to properly ID themselves in situations as this incident, they lose all immunity perks of the job.

I applaud Mr. Singletary's diligence and bravery to defend his own property - too bad he missed his targets.


117 posted on 01/31/2007 2:54:11 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Sounds like one of those Neighborhood Watch types with a Charles Bronson fetish. Good riddance.


128 posted on 01/31/2007 5:15:38 AM PST by Wolfie (Yes, kids, that's sarcasm.)
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