Posted on 01/29/2007 2:36:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance
If Obama is Muslim or has been one in the past he will never become pres. But he may blunt Mrs. Clinton.
And if this be true he is a hero.
He appears to be an apostate and as such is eligible for beheading
***What exactly from that background would make him a Muslim? ***
His brother is from the same background and he is Muslim.
I think Obama was the only child raised by his grandparents in Hawaii, and all the siblings he refers to are half or step. I believe Roy is his half brother, one of his father's other wives children. The article says Roy converted to Islam in 1992, as part of going back to his African roots. Obama only met his father once in his life.
Obama lived part of his life in Indonesia, with an Indonesian stepfather, and then in Hawaii with his grandparents, until going to college in LA.
My point, after all that, is that I don't think he and his and half brother came from the same background. But still, I don't know what makes someone a Muslim.
"Why is it that the libs always get to prtray themselves as geniuses and conservatives are automatically branded as dullards?"
Because the MSM is made up primarily of liberals who like to see themselves portrayed in this manner. Certainly the members of the press aren't going to portray themselves as dullards.
9/12/01 none would have believed that 6 years later a closet muslim would be this close to becoming President of the U.S.
That's a bit of an oversimplification. Obama's mother had atheistic beliefs, but that does not make her "non-religious." "Non-religious" means somebody who simply doesn't go to any church and doesn't care about having a religious faith. That does not describe either of Obama's parents, or his step parents, or any of the other third world deadbeats his free love flower child mother brought home from the hookah bar.
Obama's mother Ann Dunham was MUCH WORSE than simply "non-religious" - she was an actively practicing secular humanist who belonged to the Unitarian church. Unitarians, and particularly the more radical ones, elevate liberalism to the status of a religious faith. They treat Jesus as a coequal "philosopher" among many faiths, and are particularly attracted to other religions that they consider "exotic." The more non-western and backwards and third worldish and multicultural a religion is, the more exotic becomes to them and the higher attention it gets. So they naturally gravitate toward a wierd and almost psychotic alliance between secular humanism and islam.
Dunham's profession of secular humanism was just as active, dedicated, and fervently devoted as the most wild eyed fire-and-brimstone tent revival preacher on the 3 AM infomercial circuit. And being secular humanism, it was also thoroughly liberal, thoroughly marxist, thoroughly infatuated with "multiculturalism," and thoroughly evil.
It is true - Barack Obama wasn't raised explicitly muslim. He was raised a secular humanist Unitarian by his hippie mother, and a central tenet of her "religion" was dabbling in other third world religions that she considered exotic and multicultural. That is what likely prompted Ann Dunham's recurring attractions to muslim deadbeats on student visas from the third world. It is also how Obama got exposed to Islam. It wasn't a passing exposure either - Obama's brother, who got the same upbringing, converted to Islam because of it.
The best way to think of Ann Dunham is to picture one of those hippie ladies who brought her little kids to the Jane Fonda rally last saturday. She was the type of mother who believed it wasn't her place to "impose" any traditional religion on her children except that her means of ensuring this didn't happen was to indoctrinate them with a non-traditional religious viewpoint based on the kookier branches of Unitarianism. She was the type of mother who would give an 8 year old a Bible, a book of Confuscius, a Buddhist canon, a Hindu hymnal, a Koran, a witchcraft spell book, rastafarian pot brownies, and a voodoo doll. Next she'd fill his head about how closed minded Christians are. Then she tells him all other religions are "co-equal," and directs him to pick the one he's most comfortable with.
Obomba, sounds like a hip name for a bomb maker.
If the MSM keeps makeing a big deal over this guy you can bet the Hildabeast has all kind of stuff dug up on him.
That was another Muslim --- the one from MI who won a seat in the U.S. House.
I never heard he was sworn in with the Koran. Do you have link to that?
oops...my mistake.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/605874/posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw
Just the words? She couldn't follow the melody, either.
Not that there aren't a lot of people who can't sing. But SHE has the means to take voice lessons to learn how to follow a melody.
But maybe her lack of musical ability is what endears her to the leftists. Who knows.
It's okay --- two too many holding elected Muslims regardless.
OH, I had read that his mother didn't go to church. I didn't know all that about Unitarians. But in any event, can you tell me how one becomes a Muslim without actively doing something on their own part. And how do you know his mother directed him to choose a religion?
And, was this brother Roy a full brother? I am of the impression that he is a half brother by Obama's Kenyan father, and was not raised with Obama, which makes me think he wouldn't have been exposed to Obama's mother's beliefs about religion.
And finally, I've never seen anything to substantiate Obama's mother's "recurring attractions to muslim deadbeats on student visas from third worlds". It sounds like his father had already renounced Islam when she met him, and it also sounds like Obama's father came from a well to do family. And I've read that his step father made a good living in Jakarta and they lived in an upper class part of the city. Did she get involved with other so-called Muslim men? Two in a lifetime doesn't seem to be a recurring attraction.
Is that why so many of them are on some type of government assistance including for mental illness?! If you don't believe me go over to DU where they discuss it.
Actually, Ellison is from Minnesota.
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