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Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama?
Examiner.com ^ | January 29, 2007 | Bill Sammon

Posted on 01/29/2007 2:36:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: Kathy in Calif
Did she get involved with other so-called Muslim men? Two in a lifetime doesn't seem to be a recurring attraction.

I'm floored.
81 posted on 01/29/2007 6:28:11 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: EternalVigilance

His church in Chicago, Trinity UCC, seems to be all about politics, especially the politics of resentment. At Trinity, Jesus is not such a big deal. Politics is what's hot.


82 posted on 01/29/2007 6:35:34 PM PST by cookcounty (The "Greatest Generation" was also the most violent generation.)
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To: cookcounty

Yep. It's a danged racist place.


83 posted on 01/29/2007 6:37:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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84 posted on 01/29/2007 6:40:17 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: EternalVigilance
But after much soul searching, he eventually was baptized at Trinity United Church of Christ.

What does Mohammed say about that. - Tom

Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:
Narrated 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

85 posted on 01/29/2007 6:51:57 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

That's gonna leave a mark.


86 posted on 01/29/2007 6:53:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

If Obama said the Muslim magic words and then went Christian wouldn't Obama be under a death sentence?


87 posted on 01/29/2007 7:53:58 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Mike Darancette

It's a logical deduction.


88 posted on 01/29/2007 7:56:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: onyx
I read the article and the names and then immediately dismissed all from my memory.

You can be sure they're the usual suspects. The FOB's are "Friends Of Barack".

89 posted on 01/30/2007 12:34:13 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
He was an empty suit. The MSM are only concerned with what democrat will get 51% of the vote. They are now going to hedge all bets on Hitlery.

They're guaranteed 43% by default. They just work on that remaining 8%.

90 posted on 01/30/2007 12:38:37 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Kathy in Calif

First, under Islamic law, children of a Muslim father are Muslims. His father was a Muslim (as was his stepfather). Second, he was registered as a Muslim at the public school in Indonesia, where public records classify people according to religion. (Besides being born to a Muslim father, saying the Muslim creed in the presence of a Muslim witness makes one a Muslim.)

Thus, either Senator Obama is an apostate from Islam, and has a big target painted on him, or he is lying about his embrace of liberal (UCC) Christianity.

While you are right that the 'kill all apostates' command doesn't motivate the hunting of low profile ex-Muslims living in the US, the election of an apostate from Islam as POTUS would definitely attract both more vilification and assassination attempts from his former coreligionists.

Senator Obama needs to be pressed on the matter, since if he is lying about his Christianity, the public should know so that they can make an informed judgement about electing a Muslim liar, and if he is sincere, the attacks on him (certainly rhetorical and possibly physical) by Muslims may finally concentrate the mind of the American left on the defense of civilization.


91 posted on 01/30/2007 7:23:11 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: EternalVigilance

Having him as president would be a disaster for us all, no matter what this madrassa connection turns out to be.
However, Hillary would be worse.


92 posted on 01/30/2007 7:49:47 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Left + Jihad. The alliance that seeks to eliminate Western Civilization, and us)
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To: lqclamar

I have seen no information that Obama's mother was political in any way just a dippy idealist. His politics are not Marxist but standard Chicago Democrat crook. That is where his weak spot is and where attacks should be concentrated.

His Land scam is just the tip of the iceberg and I would wage there is more where that came from.


93 posted on 01/30/2007 8:48:26 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I have seen no information that Obama's mother was political in any way just a dippy idealist. His politics are not Marxist but standard Chicago Democrat crook.

Obama's mother wasn't from Chicago though. She was from Kansas, and nutty as she was I seriously doubt she had any connection to organized crime...except maybe her cannabis supplier.

There were several interviews over the weekend with her indonesian friends where her politics were described. She was a hippie multiculturalist nutcase marxist just like her Unitarian parents (who Obama lived with when he was in high school). They all are.

94 posted on 01/30/2007 9:55:14 AM PST by lqclamar
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Given how his family takes up and discards religions like they're hobbies, who's to say he won't go Muslim in the White House and institute sharia law? His family has a history of this kind of ignorant and anti-Western instability (animism, atheism, Islam, etc.).

They also apparently do the same thing with families. His mother Ann Dunham married two muslim deadbeats, both ending in nasty separations with kids left in her tow as she hopped around the South Pacific.

Barack Obama Sr. was a walking marital disaster. He was a polygamist (as many muslims are) and took at least 4 wives in his lifetime. He left his first wife in Kenya without divorcing her and moved to the U.S. on a student visa. Ann Dunham - Barack Jr.'s mom - was wife number 2. He abandoned her in Hawaii (again no divorce) and moved to Harvard where he took wife #3, who gave him 2 kids. Then he went back to Kenya and hooked up with wife #1 again, producing a couple more kids with her. Then he hooked up with wife #4, another Kenyan lady, and had another kid with her.

Throughout there were no divorce records when he dumped his wife of the moment, and there's also evidence that he still considered the other wives to be his own. Some reporter interviewed Barack Sr.'s Kenyan family members in an article over the weekend about it. They kept saying that he considered himself still married to his first wife, the Kenyan lady, two wives later and said this was an accepted "tradition" of his culture. The reporter wouldn't dare call it the dreaded p-word - POLYGAMY. Nor will anybody else in the MSM. But polygamy is exactly what it was.

95 posted on 01/30/2007 10:09:37 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar

Wow.


96 posted on 01/30/2007 10:22:40 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance
“In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans … have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging,” he laments. “I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

A red flag and a showstopper. The Hildebeast will leap and fly out of her pig pen at this news.

97 posted on 01/30/2007 10:37:11 AM PST by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: Gelato; Waywardson; Spiff; garv; Broadside; Taxman; Ladycalif; chicagolady; afnamvet
“In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans … have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging,” he laments. “I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

A red flag and a showstopper. The Hildebeast will leap and fly out of her pig pen at this news.

97 posted on 01/30/2007 12:37:11 PM CST by afnamvet (It is what it is.)

An important fyi...

98 posted on 01/30/2007 12:33:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Sorry for the link, but I won't pay the NY Times to read Kristoff. The excerpt from a blog works.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/03/foreign_policy_training_in_the.html

"I was a little Jakarta street kid," he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics - and more likely to be aware of their nationalism - if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

99 posted on 03/06/2007 3:51:48 PM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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Re post 99

For those who might be interested, Muslim Call to Prayer, with sound.

100 posted on 03/06/2007 4:01:52 PM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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