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Bin Laden, the Left, and Me (Dinesh D'Souza)
Washington Post ^ | 1/28/07 | Dinesh D'Souza

Posted on 01/28/2007 1:11:04 PM PST by blitzgig

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To: blitzgig

I knew James Wolcott (Vanity Fair) years ago when he was the tv critic for the Village Voice. He was pretty conservative then and always fighting the mean-spirited articles in the Voice. But he was always a careerist. He's gone from being a disciple of Norman Mailer & Pauline Kael to being the complete toady to the out-of-control Grayden Carter. But some of us remember Wolcott when.


21 posted on 01/28/2007 2:26:05 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: blitzgig
I've gotta get D'Sousa's book!

The rantings of the left will help sell more copies, proof again that liberals can always be counted on to bring attention to those things they want ignored.

22 posted on 01/28/2007 2:27:52 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: OmegaMan
D'Souza picked out all the criticisms that came from the left, but I've read just as many from the right.

That's a very good point. What D'Souza is saying is that we are demanding changes in traditional Muslim culture. D'Souza points out that they resent it, and I think correctly that it's what motivates the fighting. I haven't finished his book yet, so forgive me if this turns out to be off-base, but I think that a lot of critics have interpreted his explanation of Muslim resentment as a defense of it.

In short, the Muslim radicals are afraid that we'll win the fight without a shot and hence have started shooting; that unless they turn the world to Shari'a we will ineluctably turn it to both the good parts of Western culture and the bad. It's only on our side of the fence that we differentiate the good from the bad - as I tried to say above, we social conservatives tend to promote the emancipation of women and divorce it from the promotion of abortion. In our eyes the two issues aren't the same. In the eyes of the Muslims they are. And in the eyes of many on the Left they are as well. That's just my guess at explaining what you've pointed out.

23 posted on 01/28/2007 2:30:57 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: blitzgig

What a shocker ... A writer at the NYT having another hizzy fight


24 posted on 01/28/2007 2:34:11 PM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: blitzgig
More of these:

Equals less of these:


25 posted on 01/28/2007 2:42:52 PM PST by Steely Tom
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To: blitzgig
I also argue that the policies that U.S. "progressives" promote around the world -- including abortion rights, contraception for teenagers and gay rights -- are viewed as an assault on traditional values by many cultures, and have contributed to the blowback of Islamic rage.

This is manifestly and undeniably true. Yet it's unsettling, not just to leftist "progressives," but to those who claim that the Islamic radicals hate us because we espouse Freedom and Democracy. That's why reaction to D'Souza's book has been negative even on this forum.

26 posted on 01/28/2007 2:47:00 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: FairOpinion
"President Jimmy Carter's withdrawal of support for the shah of Iran, for example, helped Ayatollah Khomeini's regime come to power in Iran, thus giving radical Islamists control of a major state; and President Bill Clinton's failure to respond to Islamic attacks confirmed bin Laden's perceptions of U.S. weakness and emboldened him to strike on 9/11"

Helped?

After stabbing in the back, our only ally during the oil embargo,
Carter gave Iran to that murderer Khomeini . For crying out loud,the Shah was dieing of cancer and Carter fought to have him banned from entering the US for medical treatment.
27 posted on 01/28/2007 2:49:03 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: blitzgig
BTTT
28 posted on 01/28/2007 2:59:23 PM PST by Chgogal (If not Iraq, why then Darfur?)
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To: blitzgig
I am reading the book; and think he is 'spot on'. . .but have only just begun. . .perhaps they did not read the introduction OR. . .need they better 'speed-reading' skill/comprehension OR. . .

. . .and I think this is the controversy. . .The Left is howling; albeit only for purposes of creating a 'smoke and mirrors' kind of environment for D'Souza's book. Offering their provoked response on behalf of an 'America slighted'; when. . .should one be so inclined to read the book; after hearing the howls; realizes immediately 'who' is 'the' enemy he references.

. . .and they just do not want anybody recognizing; much less debating D'Souza's presentation of the dirty truth; or more specifically for the Left, the dirty truth of their contribution to 9/11.

There is nothing really new in D'Souza's book; at least premise-wise; for sure. But, political correctness has prevented many from 'overtly'; directly. . .going there.

From Introduction/excerpt:(paragraphs/italics mine):

'The Enemy At Home':

[The Bush Administration and the conservatives must stop uncritically promoting American popular culture, because it is producing a blowback of Muslim rage. . . .American foreign policy should stand up for liberal values; but not for the liberal values associatied with the cultural left. Rather it must work to promote classical liberal ideas (. . . .)

There are also healthy aspects of American culture that we can be proud to share with the rest of the world. But we must stop exporting the cultural left's America.

That means we should stop insisting on radical secularism, stop promoting the feminist conception of the family, stop trying to promote abortion and "sex education," and we should try to halt the export of the vulgar and corrupting elements of our popular culture.

When we cannot do these things, we should apologize to the rest of the world and make it clear that we too find a good deal in this culture to be embarassing and disgusting.

There is no "clash of civilizations"between Islam and the West. But there are two clashes of civilizations that are shaping the world today.

The first is a clash between liberal and conservative values within America. The second is a clash between traditional Islam and radical Islam, a clash within Islamic society. So realize it or not, American conservatives are fighting a two-front war.

The first is a war against Islamic radicalism and fundamentalism. The second is a political struggle against the left and its pernicious political and moral influence in America and around the globe. My conclusion is that the two wars are intimately connected. In fact, we cannot win the first war without also winning the second war.] end excerpt. . .

29 posted on 01/28/2007 3:22:12 PM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or suffer their consequences)
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To: blitzgig
D'Souza responds to the moonbats.

...while he ignores more relevant criticism from the right. D'Souza seems to feel that if the existence of homosexuality in the US or the appeal of American music to Middle Eastern youth is what "enrages" the mullahs, this is something we should apologize for. On the contrary: if these things are true, we should sweep in and wipe Wahhabism off the face of the Earth with exactly the same techniques we used on Nazism. Sorry, but if a foreign religion really does insist on imposing its laws in the streets of Manchester and Minneapolis, then it has no reason to live. If D'Souza really does love America, he should realize this.

30 posted on 01/28/2007 3:22:23 PM PST by BlazingArizona (co)
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To: blitzgig
D'Souza is just "speaking truth to power". (using lefty words).
31 posted on 01/28/2007 4:13:24 PM PST by Moorings
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To: TET1968

"For crying out loud,the Shah was dieing of cancer and Carter fought to have him banned from entering the US for medical treatment. "



Carter, the great humanitarian. (/sarc)


32 posted on 01/28/2007 5:28:23 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: stm

Personally, I wish you were in charge. ;*)


33 posted on 01/28/2007 5:38:49 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: jazusamo

Thank you for the ping, Jaz! Very good!!!


34 posted on 01/28/2007 5:40:22 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: blitzgig

BTTT


35 posted on 01/28/2007 5:56:52 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: cricket
Your analysis is right on the mark; this is what I believe to be the truth also.

I lived overseas during the 1980s and saw the embarrassing offerings that American television provided to the world. All those night time soap operas led people to believe American women were like Joan Collins.

It has only gotten worse since the advent of cable and satellite pump out pornography, and the internet provides the same.

It is the Leftists and their Hollywood funders who have advocated for this; there was a time when our traditional classical liberal values were admired even in the Muslim world. Polls taken in the 1950s gave evidence of this. We were admired, not hated.

36 posted on 01/28/2007 8:08:10 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Billthedrill

What you said.


37 posted on 01/28/2007 8:57:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: blitzgig

Dinesh D'Souza hasn't just been bashed by the left for this book, but by many on the right. He's gotten beaten up by Alan Wolfe in the NYT and the America-loathing Katha Pollitt at The Nation, to be sure, but he's also been trashed in Frontpage Mag (by a reviewer I don't know, and by Jamie Glazov), on Powerline (by Scott Johnson) and Hugh Hewitt's blog (by contributor Dean Barnett).

Those are not rabid sites who attack people just to see the blood, but mainstream and reasonable conservative commentators. They have read Dinesh's book.... and after reading their reviews, I'll give it a miss.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26572

and

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26584

and

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/4358f1f6-2a20-42a9-ba23-bda2d69af0ef

and

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/016556.php




d.o.l.

Criminal Number 19F


38 posted on 01/28/2007 10:42:12 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Kitchener faced a 'Mahdi Army' too... how'd that work out?)
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To: Blackirish

Like your tagline. Gee, if I thought the Dink would really do it, I'd cheerfully vote for Rudy.

But I fear he would be no more willing to expatriate himself than Alec Baldwin was after the last election.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


39 posted on 01/28/2007 10:44:41 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Kitchener faced a 'Mahdi Army' too... how'd that work out?)
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To: blitzgig

I thought 'liberals' were vehement that we should you seek to understand the 'root causes' of terrorism.


40 posted on 01/28/2007 10:47:57 PM PST by Aikonaa
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