Posted on 01/28/2007 5:52:08 AM PST by Nextrush
So, how would a person with an IQ of 95 and no engineering degree, but with other "diversity" qualifications such as being a black homosexual transgender who understands gender theory be a benefit to the project?
How many good engineers do you know that have an IQ of 95?
I was with you until the "forbidding any white culture" part, that seems like a bit of an exaggeration. The established cutlure for the vast majority of this country is about as whitebread as you can get. Lord knows its tough out there for the white man!
Are you sure their replacement isn't having the government (them) tell everyone what to do, how to do it, and when to do it for every facet of their lives, including using the toilet?
Just because there are impractical, high-IQ engineers does not mean that low-IQ engineers might be any good. We have two dimensions here: IQ and practicality. Therefore, there are four combinations: smart and practical, smart and impractical, stupid and practical, and stupid and impractical. You want your car designed by only one of these, and [hint] he or she must have a high IQ.
And a Muslim?
Of course, you have to have muslims involved for true diversity.
If you think about it, a world of tribes isolated from one another may be the maximum of human diversity. The modern world's mixing of people together may look more diverse to people in any one place, but it's part of the world becoming more homogeneous and real diversity of groups disappearing.
That's certainly one way of looking at things, and it's very much in contrast to the fashionable creed of the day. Of course, you could argue that bringing different cultures together offers the possibility of new syntheses, hence more diversity, but it looks like the urban cultures of the world are melding into one lifestyle that doesn't differ from country to country and continent to continent as ways of life once did.
It looks like a wag got into Wikipedia's article on "diversity":
Diversity is the presence of a wide range of variation in the qualities or attributes under discussion. As well as an old, wooden ship used in the Civil War era.
Diversity is a form of battleship, speed boat, beliefs of victory. Amongst soilders, particularly in the Cival War, the term diversity refers to an old wooden ship used in the Civil War era*.
No idea if this is true or not, but it seems to be making the rounds of the Internet.
I have some quotes from a man involved in "diversity" that will confirm what you are saying. I will use them in a later post in this series.
The left discovered that race could be a vehicle for their purposes. Of course I don't blame segregation on them or any other racial policies that existed. The left found a means to create the conflict so they could create revolution.
Of course the changes that came as people changed their minds about race (not legal changes like civil rights laws) forced the left to move into new directions hence this new concept of "diversity" to rekindle the past conflicts that had quieted down.
I have worked with engineers across the spectrum. Many of those who might not be the sharpest knives in the drawer still bring something to the table. An engineer with a 95 IQ is still a desireable entity on a design team because, in the first place, the individual with the 95 IQ made it through engineering school. That speaks pretty highly of the engineer's ability alone.
I understand your point, but I think you aren't asking the right question. Would I want that individual with the 95 IQ to be the project engineer for the design project? Can't say - that's a case by case assessment. As far as no engineering degree, I also don't have any issues with that. I have known and worked with a few non-degreed engineers and many of them are equal to or exceed the abilities of several of the degreed engineers I have worked with. You keep trying to get me to agree with you based on IQ or diversity factors and, in the experience I have gained in my career, I haven't found it to be that black and white. That's why my primary metric is performance. Gender, race, IQ, religion, sexual preferences, hair/eye color, blood type are all distractions that take away from the goal.
I have made snap judgements before about people, making assessments on the basis of some sterotyped category only to be surprised by that individual later on in the project. Each of us is different and we all bring different things to an engineering project.
Let's just say that we'll agree to disagree on this point. I have listed my reasons in a follow-up response to Michigan Conservative.
I don't think we agree on the basic background assumptions of the scenario. I guess I just didn't write it clear enough.
This was my main point: Lots of leftists say "diversity is out strength", focusing primarily on skin color and, for instance, what you do with or to your penis. Well, if the task at hand is building a complicated device, what does that actually have to do with it and how does having a transgender necessarily make your team stronger?
I guess for some people you know certain penis-related pastimes might correlate with being a good engineer. But what did its penis-related pastime bring to the engineering problem at hand? I do not believe there exists a causal relationship between skin color or penis pastime and the ability to perform in any given situation.
Maybe "correlate" should be "coincide" there, champ.
I you don't like the IQ criteria, how about replacing that with "a group of people who 'look like America' and are also in a vegetative state". Isn't their "diversity" their strength? I mean, they've got blacks, whites, hispanics, homosexuals, men, women, children, oldsters, transgenders, Jews, muslims, buddhists, etc.
OK, I think this indicates my inability to express another important assumption. The second group does not necessarily have any engineering education, training, or experience. In fact, they should come from all walks of life so they better "look like America." One of them might have years of experience as a heroin addict living on the streets, seeing as that would make them even more likely to "look like America". But I guess there could be great engineers who spent years living on the streets as a junkie, so let's say he has an MFA and wanted to be an actor.
ROFL!!!!
NOW, you're in the ballpark!! THAT's the resume for the project engineer.
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