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Washington wakes up to global warming (-Hip Waders & a Jumbo Barf Bucket Recommended-)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/27/07 | Matt Crenson - ap

Posted on 01/27/2007 8:04:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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Lake Gore?

An ice lake is seen in the Greenland ice cap, in this Aug. 17, 2005, file photo. Scientists say the vast icy landscape is thinning, and many blame global warming. (AP Photo/John McConnico/FILE)

1 posted on 01/27/2007 8:04:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Going Green sells these days,, It's a sexy topic.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair leaves at the end of the
session "Global Challenge" at the World Economic Forum
in Davos. Blair warned of "a yawning gap" between an
understanding of global challenges like climate change
and the capacity to deal with them.(AFP/Joel Saget)

2 posted on 01/27/2007 8:05:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

this was the worst part of the SOTU - this is a major "giveback" position to the left.

the left would use global warming, and the government controls on CO2 - to regulate every aspect of our lives - how we live, where we live, what we drive, how we use transportation, how we use electricity, etc.


3 posted on 01/27/2007 8:10:04 PM PST by oceanview
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As Chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee I can have an impact on the issue of global warming and energy policy by encouraging the growth of public transit. This takes cars off the road, reducing both greenhouse gas emissions and our dependence on foreign oil.

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Minn. Dem. Rep. Jim Oberstar

4 posted on 01/27/2007 8:14:40 PM PST by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: oceanview

this was the worst part of the SOTU - this is a major "giveback" position to the left.
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I about threw a brick at GWB in my set when that panderer to the libs did it again.


5 posted on 01/27/2007 8:14:45 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: NormsRevenge

It is astonishing and frightening that such claptrap can gain credibility within twenty years' time.


6 posted on 01/27/2007 8:14:46 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1774619/posts?page=18#3


7 posted on 01/27/2007 8:15:58 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Thanks!

Sounds like a solar cycle thing , huh?


8 posted on 01/27/2007 8:16:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl
HERE COMES CARBON CREDIT TRADING!!!
9 posted on 01/27/2007 8:20:16 PM PST by Shermy
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To: NormsRevenge

Gee I wonder if they are going to impose green house gas caps on Mars and Neptune? Seems the polar Ice caps are melting there as well.


10 posted on 01/27/2007 8:21:16 PM PST by Sudetenland
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Is the carbon cap and trade exchange going to be something like the Dot com bubble?


11 posted on 01/27/2007 8:22:40 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I agree. Even more astonishing is the fact that they will probably be sitting in the snow and slush twenty years from now still screaming about global warming.

That or they will attribute global cooling to civilization with some kind of reverse voodoo science claims.


12 posted on 01/27/2007 8:24:32 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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British
Prime Minister Tony Blair leaves at the end of the
session "Global Challenge" at the World Economic Forum
in Davos. Blair laughed how easily Americans are tricked
into carbon schemes to trade Brit credits for Yankee dollars.
"I made Bush say "greenhouse gasses" so now he's locked into that meme!" (AFP/Shermy)

13 posted on 01/27/2007 8:26:21 PM PST by Shermy
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I'm not sure how we get out of it either. some ideas on this area I can live with - like alternative fuels.

but to basically make a broad generalization that says "al gore is right", opens the floodgates to government control over anything and everything that involves energy.


14 posted on 01/27/2007 8:30:01 PM PST by oceanview
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“The beauty of carbon trading, is that it takes a primal human impulse — greed — and redirects it
toward saving the planet rather than destroying it.”
--Dan Dudek, chief economist at Environmental Defense,
as quoted in the NYT, July 30, 2006
Of course, whether it does anything to actually "save the planet" is not material to the objective.
15 posted on 01/27/2007 8:31:25 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Shermy

you can see it coming - want to buy an SUV, you'll have to buy a credit from someone (with some brokerage house or energy trading desk in the middle of the transaction, getting a commission of course). open a factory, same thing. and on and on.


16 posted on 01/27/2007 8:31:41 PM PST by oceanview
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"Is the carbon cap and trade exchange going to be something like the Dot com bubble?"

Dot-Com + California electricity + Junk Bonds + BCCI

Heck, Enron supporting the system!

Already many American companies are "registering" their "carbon footprints", no doubt over stating them, then showing "improvement" thereby earning credits in the future. So many potential scams, so many abuses. You can see the MSM is following tight talking points, eg.

"Environmentalists favor imposing a mandatory cap on greenhouse gas emissions..."

True, but to all emissions,

"...tied to a market-based emissions trading system."

Absolutely false. Financial markets and various corporate factions who think they'll profit are foisting this system otherwise known as Kyoto.

"Several of the global warming bills that have been introduced to the new Democrat-controlled Congress would do exactly that. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) has proposed creating a new global warming committee to consider the legislation."


Yep, it's the dems and their carbon market backers like Goldman Sachs.


17 posted on 01/27/2007 8:33:23 PM PST by Shermy
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Dot-Com + California electricity + Junk Bonds + BCCI

+ S&L Scandals/bailouts

18 posted on 01/27/2007 8:37:28 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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"The beauty of carbon trading, is that it takes a primal human impulse — greed — and redirects it toward saving the planet rather than destroying it.”

The beauty of carbon trading is that it is wholly unnecessary to meet the goal of carbon control and that it provides so many ways to launder, even print money via credits. The greatest beauty is that a con game must either play on greed or altruism, and this does both!

"The Europeans are doing it, it must be right!"


19 posted on 01/27/2007 8:39:05 PM PST by Shermy
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calcowgirl, I think you should become our carbon trading expert!

It's going to be a big issue.


20 posted on 01/27/2007 8:42:18 PM PST by Shermy
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