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Paradise Lost; Why the Left Loves Muhammad
American Thinker ^ | January 27, 2007 | Timothy Birdnow

Posted on 01/27/2007 7:20:17 AM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 01/27/2007 7:20:19 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The answer is simple. Whilst Christianity and Judaism do require one to be a law abiding citizen - that only applies to obedience to a righteous government - not a despot or wicked government.

The left wants absolute obedience to government no matter what- i.e. as in China or the Soviet Union.

All private initiative is to be given up to government.

Christianity and Judaism, while relying upon G-D also require that one be responsible for oneself as well as each other.

The first thing the left/socialists/progressives/maoists/stalinists/democrats/liberals want to do is to undermine religion with the end result of abolishing religion.

That will leave government in full control.

They don't want a higher authority than government.


2 posted on 01/27/2007 7:25:57 AM PST by Basheva
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To: neverdem
that all these puissant legions......

I know the word puissant is French for powerful. Oddly, it's not the first thing that comes to mind when I see it, however. I'm not sure if it's due to a historic opinion of French soldiers, or perhaps something else....

3 posted on 01/27/2007 7:27:31 AM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: neverdem
"The Liberal ultimately believes that the culture we have built, the triumph of Judeo-Christian values, is diseased and must be erased. If Islam can do their work for them, so be it. Islam, like the State under Marx, will ultimately wither away."

This is the most true statement in the article. The left believes it can enter into an unholy alliance with Islam much like the West did with Stalin in WWII, and once the common enemy, in this case capitalism, Christianity, Marriage, Western Civilization in general, is defeated, they will be left in peace by their new-found jihadist friends. I'm sure they even believe the Islamo-fascists will even join them in the workers' paradise. They have no idea how wrong they are. Once the Jihadist are done with us, the left will find the knife at their throats as well.

4 posted on 01/27/2007 7:30:19 AM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: neverdem
the most violent of earthly despotisms.

Yes, because prior to the ascendancy of Christianity, despots were unheard of. None of the Pharoahs or Greek kings or Persian rulers or Roman emperors ever committed any kind of offense against their citizens. They were all benevolent, compassionate leaders in the mold of Marcus Aurelius.

Then there were the so-called "barbarians," those nature-loving tribes in Gaul, Germania, Britannia ... You know, the ones famed in song and story as fun-loving burghers who occasionally clashed with other villagers or were forced to defend themselves against invaders? The ones led by Atilla, who called himself "The Scourge of God?" And how 'bout them Vikings? (Not the Minnesota football team; the less said about THEM, the better!) Now THERE was a loving, caring group of seafarers. Not once did they ever raid an English coastal village and butcher every single man, woman, child, and goat. No sir. And let's not forget about Genghis Khan, whose army of Mongols was known as a roving band of do-gooders who rode quietly into neighboring towns and helped citizens build schools and hospitals.

All the atrocities in history emerged after Christianity cast its evil spell over utopian, pastoral Europe.

5 posted on 01/27/2007 7:32:29 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: neverdem
Good article. Many salient points. I especially appreciate the idea that the neo-pagans (environmentalists) are trying to "return" us to a state they never really believed existed: the Garden of Eden. Thanks for posting.

I posted this the other day, one writer's analysis of the pathological hatred of Pres. Bush (and conservatives). It agrees with this article.

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=13312
6 posted on 01/27/2007 7:36:59 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: neverdem
The Left admires Islam because it seeks a return to the Garden Of Eden. Descriptions of a garden of ease and comfort are vivid images in the Koran. Leaving aside the less attractive features of Islam, the idea of an other worldly paradise tugs at many people. The difference the Left has with Islam is it wishes to build that paradise in the here and now through socialism and what unites them is a common loathing of Western civilization and its emphasis on a realist as opposed to a romantic view of the future.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 01/27/2007 7:49:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

I think it's simpler than this. The left bows to authority. They don't consider Christians and Jews to have authority because Christianity and Judaism work within the law, and liberals write the laws. In their minds, they have authority over Christians and Jews.

Muslims, however, do not work within the laws. They simply tell you the way it will be, and if you don't agree, then they kill you. In effect, Muslims have authority over liberals, and that is why liberals bow to Mecca.


8 posted on 01/27/2007 7:53:18 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: NavVet

Agreed - it's essentially the suicidal nihilist's version of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".


9 posted on 01/27/2007 7:55:52 AM PST by leilani (Dimmi, dimmi se mai fu fatta cosa alcuna!)
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To: neverdem

Lesser anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collectives will join forces with the greatest collective in the history of civilization. These gangs will attack-destroy the smallest minority - the individual, (his) life everlasting - his family, and any positive collective (The United States of America, etc.) which promotes this bedrock of civilization.


10 posted on 01/27/2007 8:04:29 AM PST by PGalt
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To: neverdem
If Islam can do their work for them, so be it. Islam, like the State under Marx, will ultimately wither away, and the paradise which predated Christ and Abraham can be restored. At least they like to think so.

The problem is, all records and practitioners of liberal thought will be erased from the face of the Earth if Islam has its way.

11 posted on 01/27/2007 8:06:43 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

"If they ever were to succeed in implementing their tyranny, we are witnessing, prophetically, only a portion of the rage and vengeance they would unleash upon the populace should we dare not to submit to their desires."

Thanks for the link.


12 posted on 01/27/2007 8:07:02 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I still don't know why the left loves the proponents of the ideology of death and destruction.
Perhaps it's because of some similarities.
1. Both want the destruction of western civilization, including Christianity and Judaism.
2. Both are totalitarian systems that punish dissenters.
3. Both are irrational, unreasonable, and lead to contradictions.
4. Both want the establishment of a paradise on earth. One wants a communist paradise, the other wants a religious fundamentalist regime.
5. Both lead to poverty and misery for the masses.
6. Both concentrate power and money in the hands of a few.
7. Both function best with a dictator at the head.
8. Both feel that it is Ok to reach your goals By Any Means Necessary.

I've probably missed a few. Can anyone add some?


13 posted on 01/27/2007 8:09:15 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is demented)
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To: neverdem
Great article. The left's problems with Western civilization go deeper than Marxism (although that is a major factor). The left is in revolt against the Enlightenment (and ultimately Greek and Roman thought) as well. I think Rousseau was mostly reacting against Enlightenment rationalism, so every savage is "noble" and every criminal is the victim of the artificial constructs of an "unfair" (read: rational, law-based) society. You see how easy it is to blend Rousseau's irrationalism with pseudo-Marxism?

The left is fundamentally anti-rational. Although leftists do use the word "science" from time to time, they want to use science much as the Nazis did -- twisted science put to brutish ends and at the same time constrained and empowered by a totalitarian ideology. Unable to distinguish between reality and fantasy, contemporary leftists as often as not go for pesudo-science (Al Gore's theearthismeltingbecauseofcapitalism, the world as "Gaia", cloning humans as the key to immortality and so on).

14 posted on 01/27/2007 8:10:18 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Basheva

This is exactly right. The article intellectualizes the problem beyond the actual beliefs of 99.999% of the members of the left. Their actual consciousness is more accurately reflected in your post. I would add, however, that as the author points out, the left does believe that that they can bring about a humanistic millenium. They are also all extraordinarily narcissitic - they all secretly worship themselves. This is why Christianity s is blasphemy to leftists - it denies the government's and their status as gods.


15 posted on 01/27/2007 8:13:31 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: NavVet
Once the Jihadist are done with us, the left will find the knife at their throats as well.

Crazed-out muzzies vs. the wussy libs: That's gonna be a lop-sided fight in which many libs will literally lose their heads.

16 posted on 01/27/2007 8:26:05 AM PST by Vision Thing (Mister Democrat is a Son of a Vichy)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
I still don't know why the left loves the proponents of the ideology of death and destruction.

A century ago, the left thought that communism, because it was so progressive, would first take over the most advanced countries. The standard Marxist view was that societies would progress from feudalism to capitalism to socialism and finally, to communism. When communism instead took over relatively feudalistic countries like Russia and not advanced countries like France and Britain, this presented a problem. To explain this, the communists had to invent a "theory of imperialism" -- the advanced countries were able to avoid communism because they exploited the poor countries. This means that the "imperialist" countries have to be essentially destroyed and then communism will emerge from the wreckage.

What does this have to do with the left's attraction to Islamofascism? Everything. Here we have backward societies attacking modern, "imperialist" societies. The terrorists are merely "noble savages" who are setting things right by trying to destroy civilization. After the Islamofascists destroy everything, the leftists imagine that conditions will be right for them to establish communism. This sort of thing makes perfect sense to the pseudo-intellectuals who embrace communism and Islamofascism. All you need is to be ignorant of history and economics and be brainwashed to hate Western civilization. There are plenty of people like that.

17 posted on 01/27/2007 8:34:18 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: goldstategop
The Left admires Islam because it seeks a return to the Garden Of Eden.

Frankly, I think the Left admires Islam because it promises unlicensed sexual promiscuity in Heaven,... if there is a heaven.

If you're a Leftist, just imagine,... a future world where all your lusts are celebrated and indulged - just like the one you're in now (except for all those spoilsport Christians and Jews). The Left figures Islam has the right idea, but maybe not the only way to get there.

But why quibble about details? These can be negotiated with people of like faith!

So, it's no wonder the Left and Islam are constitutionally a$$hole buddies!

18 posted on 01/27/2007 8:45:51 AM PST by Gritty (Liberals despise moral values because moral values limit their sexual freedoms - Kevin McCullough)
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To: neverdem

Its not that lefties love Islam. Its just that they don't care about it and don't think it warrants one second of distraction from their quest of global socialism and demonizing white Republicans.


19 posted on 01/27/2007 8:54:03 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Brilliant
"Christianity and Judaism work within the law, and liberals write the laws. In their minds, they have authority over Christians and Jews. Muslims, however, do not work within the laws. ... Muslims have authority over liberals, and that is why liberals bow to Mecca."

Aha! Ordinary pack behavior. The Liberal Betas perceive the Islamofascists as Alpha males, and cower in their presence. The anit-imperialist dogs.

Another brilliant point, Brilliant! (And Islam really isn't "submission," is it?)

20 posted on 01/27/2007 10:36:00 AM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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