Posted on 01/24/2007 5:51:23 AM PST by NapkinUser
That is NOT a fact in the case....it is hearsay....and you SEEM to have swallowed it like a scoop of rocky road Hagen Das...
Yes, the perp was running, but he did turn and point an object at the Border Patrol agents.... Bear in mind that he is a KNOWN drug smuggler and they are normally considered armed.
Also, none of the supposed evidence has been released by the feds....even though my Conressman McCaul has repeatedly requested the interview transcripts.
The entie scenario has a stench to it....
Compean and Ramos testified the smuggler was unarmed, and trying to surrender. The other BP agents that arrived on the scene shortly thereafter testified that Compean and Ramos made no mention of any sort of a weapon. No weapon was found (meaning that even if the smuggler had one before he tried to surrender, he ditched it with success).
Bear in mind that he is a KNOWN drug smuggler and they are normally considered armed.
The marijuana was not discovered in the van until after the shooting. The smuggler was fleeing a traffic stop, and that's all Compean and Ramos knew at the time of the shooting.
He did get shot in the back, but the rest of the story is based solely on the testimony of the "victim," who happens to be a drug smuggler. I guess it comes down to whether you think there is any reasonable doubt that might explain how this guy got shot in the back.
It would also make it easier for cops to pop a couple rounds into someone and say "hey, he was fleeing the scene".
I don't like his border policy but I also don't agree with her. That said....her timing IMO wasn't the best.
And especially when the entire case rests on the word of this illegal alien drug smuggler.
There was a clear message sent to Border Patrol agents here: If you do your job, you can get in serious legal trouble. As long as we keep sending that message, we could have 12 million Border Patrol agents and it wouldn't do any good.
Well, when he says in his State of teh Union that he is not for amnesty, but continues to promote "comprehensive reform," which is de facto amnesty, then what would you call it?
But I agree with you that this doesn't help her get a pardon for her husband, which the President ought to grant.
Hey, don't let the FACT that the agents said they saw a gun spoil a good open-borders amnesty rant.
Do you know what hearsay even is? A wound in the butt is not "hearsay." Testimony by the person shot in the butt is not "hearsay". Good grief.
es, the perp was running, but he did turn and point an object at the Border Patrol agents.... Bear in mind that he is a KNOWN drug smuggler and they are normally considered armed.
So while the perp was pointing an "object" at the BP's, he got shot in the butt. That is one hell of a shot.
Talk about taking two Patriots and turning your back on them...When they do get out, I will not be surprised to see two very different attitudes towards the people and entities that were supposed to protect them. Actually, I don't blame them if they do come out swinging.
Right, especially when you're told to stop MORE THAN ONCE. But the pro-amnesty people aren't goping to allow a little thing like that disrupt their bashing of these two Hispanic Americans.
Which tehy believed they were, AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW. But don't let that get in the way of your Open Borders, pro-amnesty effort to smear these two Hispanic Americans. (I didn't think that sort of attitude was allowed at FR.)
Although, a sGordon Liddy likes to pint out, "that way there is only one side to the story."
Or, dramatically, while making it -- that part of it. "Accordingly, tonight I am pardoning Agents Ramos and Compean."
That is a true statement...but is an after-the-fact statement. They did NOT know he wasn't armed at the time of the shooting.
Frankly, I say shoot the illegal drug-running bastards and be done with it, otherwise prepare for the consequences. Why is it illegal to protect our borders?
All I know about law enforcement I learned on Law & Order, but I believe if you don't stop on command, that gives law enforcement some right to shoot.
I'll have to check with Lenny Briscoe to be sure.
And that's gonna be hard.
And O.J. ad Robert Blake were acquitted. Sometimes the justice system gets it wrong. The prosecution's whole case was based on the word of a drug smuggler. He'd say anything they wanted in order to get that immunity. Anything.
Please don't end a sentence with a preposition.....BTW kiss my wound!
What is amazing here is how the main point is being ignored. THIS DRUG SMUGGLER was entering our country ILLEGALLY and entering it to sell drugs, which is also illegal. If he had entered legally, and entered for a positive reason, he would never been shot at.
There is no defense for his actions, he should be prosecuted and put in prison. After that, he should be deported.
You are wrong. All our lives are in imminent danger due to the influx of these illegal "immigrunts". He was breaking the law and was acting as if he was armed, besides he was shot in the left side buttock (a$$0 for you people in Rio Linda. I say the bad guy paid his nickle and took his chances.
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