Posted on 01/24/2007 5:51:23 AM PST by NapkinUser
So the death penalty includes failure to stop.... like Cuba, or Nazi Germany.
I'm sad that these guys are in prison, and think their sentences are too harsh. But...not only did they shoot a fleeing suspect in the back, didn't they pick up all the shell casings at the shooting site, and basically try to cover up the incident and pretend it never happened? Why sweep it under the rug if they thought it was justified?
I don't think they should be doing 12 years hard time, but neither do I think they should be in the Border Patrol any more.
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Exactly. If it were legal to shoot fleeing suspects (now WHAT reason would a suspect have for fleeing, other than some sort of guilt??) that would make the jobs of law enforcement much easier. Armed or not. I am not saying shoot to kill, but at least shoot with the intent to capacitate after a verbal warning, like multiple rounds in the legs.
Because, Mrs Ramos, the two have nothing to do with each other. I know you're upset that your husband is in prison, but get a clue. You only come off sounding looney with these kinds of comments.
Well I'm a die hard conservative and when the Pres started talking about our borders all I could think about was this guy's wife in the galley - and think yeah, he's a hyprocrite if he doesn't pardon them. This case is just too hard to take - Pres. pardon those agents!! Time is of the essence. Go read that post 250 somewhere here - the prosecution refuses to substantiate the claims to congressmen making an inquiry - that's really in your face!!
I know if I need someone's help then I'm not going to spit in their face while I'm seeking it. Corsi and the congresscritter did this family no favors, imo.
It must be 'trendy' for politicians to appear in the pocket of drug dealers / drug cartels. clinton / gore did such, now george has done such.
Hey, don't let the "ALLEGED" fact that he was shot in the back while fleeing (posing no imminent threat to the border agents) spoil a good immigration-bashing thread.
Heh heh. Any excuse will do.
However, you DID leave out what I thought was the most important issue re: their conviction, which NONE of the hard core haters will address: These guys TRIED TO COVER UP THEIR COMPLICITY. The not only did not report it, but tried to conceal evidence, and initially lied about it.
Someone who would turn this into a soap opera about our "brave heroic defenders of the border against the murdering criminal hordes seeking to invade" is just an agenda waiting for an excuse.
Political correctness will be the downfall of this country.
Uhmmm its not an alleged shot in the back when you have the wounds to prove it.
Deadeye Dick might be able to manage it, but you're going to have a tough time finding a regular cop who can aim for the legs and actually hit them (repeatedly!) without jacking a bullet somewhere else. Anytime you fire a shot at somebody their life is in extreme danger.
"Use a gun, go to prison."
My thoughts exactly.
Thanks for mentioning that. The fact that these border agents tried to cover up what they had done should negate any chance of a pardon.
And of course no message is being sent by the outcome to those wishing to invade America with drugs (drug runners, drug dealers, murderers, etc.) This outcome is NOT going to strike fear into those wishing to come to this country illegally knowing Border Patrol Agents can be sent to jail for defending themselves and the border. But I can hear the response now, from the drug runners, drug dealers, murderers, etc., 'get over it America, your president will protect us'. This outcome DOES NOT bode well for Law Enforcement. But, I know, why worry about Law Enforcement, for Law Enforcement is absolutely corrupt and wrong to attempt to arrest law breakers.
The drug smuggler was armed with pounds of an illegal substance to sell to our kids and put us in jeopardy at the hands of druggies and criminals. This scum should have been ignored, instead he was given immunity. I believe he was shot in the butt, not the back. The big issue was that they tried to cover it up. It has to be a difficult job to work for a government who doesn't really want you to do your job at enforcing our borders.
The Border agents were wrong to try to cover it up. This sentence is as much as people get for murder. Maybe a more equitable justice should be worked out. Instead the US is still pandering to Mexico.
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