Posted on 01/24/2007 5:51:23 AM PST by NapkinUser
"I profoundly disagree, one becomes a felon at precisely the moment that one commits a felony."
I don't agree with that sentiment but I do with the rest of your post, except the bicycle part. ;-)
It was just sitting outside a store and it was mine. There is no law against me picking up my bike and riding away with it nor did I attemt to take the law into my own hands by attempting to restrain or "arrest" the perp in any way. I don't need anyone's permission to remove my property from in front of a store.
No, I'm closer to the truth because it only takes a minimal amount of common sense to figure out you've been had after being screwed by politicians for several administrations running.
thanks for your sober and rational post and for taking a position that is pro-USA!!
As far as I can tell, disagreement with the policies of this Administration allows these agents to go free. I wonder what will happen if the same standard would be applied in the Jose Padilla case.
They work fine for me:
http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?s=4583232
http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?s=4610288
We're talking about the conviction, on eleven of twelve counts, of two Border Parol agents. You might "think" that the argument is about the "border," but you're simply emoting.
"I dunno. Wipe the froth and spittle off and see if you can explain the horrors of it to us."
If you failed to recognize the consequences of what is happening here, you are too dense to understand any explantion.
"Maybe then we can see the link from illegal immigrants to two cops who lied and obstructed justice."
They were two border guards who shot a fleeing invading drug pusher and the government felt it was more imporatant to make a point of not mistreating illegal invaders and punishing overzealous law-enforement than giving them target practise so perhaps next time the rat wouldn't be able to testify.
If they hadn't shot this piece of trash, he would have been back in America again the next day peddling drugs. Like I said, too bad their marksmanship wasn't a little better.
Its amazing how braianwashed some so-called conservatives have become in the face of political correctness.
They are GUILTY !
Facts are your friend. They were convicted on March 8, not August.
Those are news accounts OF the trial--from reporters that ATTENDED the trial and heard the testimony.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/2006/Compean.con.pdf
U.S. Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Western District of Texas
Johnny Sutton, U.S. Attorney
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 8, 2006
TWO U.S. BORDER PATROL AGENTS CONVICTED OF ASSAULT CHARGES United States Attorney Johnny Sutton announced that a federal jury in El Paso this afternoon convicted two U.S. Border Patrol agents on charges associated with a February 2005 shooting incident. The jury convicted Ignacio Ramos (a.k.a. “Nacho”) and Jose Alonso Compean with assault with serious bodily injury, assault with a deadly weapon, discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence and a civil rights charge. Compean and Ramos were also convicted of four counts and two counts, respectively, of obstruction of justice. The jury acquitted both defendants of assault with intent to commit murder.
(snip)
"She's telling her kids that the president is a liar..."
I see nothing wrong with her being honest with her children, even if he is the president.
No different than telling our children the truth about Clinton.
How do you know what their intention was? One can only infer as to their intention by their actions, which suggest that they were being dishonest.
As an aside, if there was a gun, what would compel Compean and Ramos not to mention it to the other agents that responded? Isn't that kind of dangerous?
"Rohrabacher agreed with Ramos, emphasizing to WND that "the Bush administration has a hidden agenda with Mexico and that agenda is to keep our border with Mexico wide open, even to drug smugglers."
and terrorists. Pretty much sums it up.
>>The more I here on this case the more I think they shouldn't get a pardon ! They are GUILTY !
Really? Have you read these?
Congressman McCaul about the stonewalling of the DOJ and DHS:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1771737/posts?page=250#250
Congressman Walter B. Jones's letter to Attorney General Gonzales:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1770690/posts?page=31#31
Testimony of Andy Ramirez before the Committee on Judiciary:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1771406/posts?page=53#53
It's illegal immigration.
Nice knee-jerk there, pal... I say two cops did something wrong and you try to spin it into me supporting open borders. This has nothing to do with immigration. It has everything to do with two cops stepping over the line and trying to cover it up. The fact that it just so happened to occur on the border is just ammunition for people who can't debate the facts.
Nice knee-jerk there, pal... I say two cops did something wrong and you try to spin it into me supporting open borders. This has nothing to do with immigration. It has everything to do with two cops stepping over the line and trying to cover it up. The fact that it just so happened to occur on the border is just ammunition for people who can't debate the facts.
Please provide a link to the trial transcript. Since the testimony is helpful to the agents, I'm sure that their attorneys have posted at least the relevant excerpts on the web or in news releases.
Bush has not only had to handle blows from the liberals in this country and around the world, but he's also having to handle blows from RINOs and those who call themselves 'true conservatives'. Such a constant barrage of criticsm, often expressed with hateful words, can dull the edges of your motivation, not matter how strong a leader one is.
If he had at least had consistent support from his party (don't read that as agreement on every issue), that might have helped. But he hasn't.
The more I read about this case, the worse it stinks.
Be sure and read this one, too.
Official Testimony
Presented by: Andy Ramirez, Chairman, Friends of the Border Patrol
Submitted to: Committee on Judiciary, The Honorable F. James Sensenbrenner, Chairman
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