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N Korea helping Iran with nuclear testing
TELEGRAPH UK ^ | 23/01/2007 | Con Coughlin

Posted on 01/23/2007 6:06:43 PM PST by elhombrelibre

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1 posted on 01/23/2007 6:06:44 PM PST by elhombrelibre
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2 posted on 01/23/2007 6:08:08 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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3 posted on 01/23/2007 6:09:29 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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4 posted on 01/23/2007 6:09:59 PM PST by elhombrelibre (After 9/11, Bush went to war with terrorists and their supporters. Democrats war against him.)
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"The Iranians are reported to have been encouraged by the fact that no punitive action was taken against North Korea, despite the international outcry that greeted the underground firing."

I'm sure the table-cloth-heads are saying, we really should abandon our nuclear testing. There is international outcry, dammit!


5 posted on 01/23/2007 6:15:11 PM PST by Disturbin (Get back to work -- millions of people on welfare are counting on you!)
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To: elhombrelibre
The Iranians are reported to have been encouraged by the fact that no punitive action was taken against North Korea, despite the international outcry that greeted the underground firing.

Well, that isn't strictly true but quite obviously not enough happened publicly to dissuade the Iranians. The world will pay a price for inaction.

6 posted on 01/23/2007 6:16:02 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: elhombrelibre

"Western intelligence agencies have reported an increase in the number of North Korean and Iranian scientists travelling between the two countries."

And what are we doing about it? The same thing we do about the known drug and human traffickers who cross back and forth over border between Mexico and the USA.


7 posted on 01/23/2007 6:17:00 PM PST by Disturbin (Get back to work -- millions of people on welfare are counting on you!)
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To: elhombrelibre

I thought the test the N. Koreans had was pretty much a bust. Still: I suppose any explosion is better then none.

It isnt surprising that N. Korea wopuld agree to help Iran,but Iran isnt quite in the same position N. Korea is. Their geographical location would pretty much force a harsh response to a nuclear test.


8 posted on 01/23/2007 6:20:35 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: elhombrelibre

But so many wise government employees who were Vietnam vets or are Caligula followers have told us from their superior posterior orifices, that Iran won't have nukes for another 10 years. And you know that the Saudis are pushing oil down to $20 per barrel for us, and Iran has to pay just as much as we do for everything. Besides, we're paying hundreds of billions of dollars to run a perfectly good bluff on Iran now, and the mullahs and their neo-Nazi nation are all shaking. Iran only wants to nuke Israel, anyway, and wouldn't ever hurt Britain or the USA.

...no problem. Let's just grab whatever gusto we can get today and leave the problems of tomorrow for the kids.

[Little irony and sarcasm there for you.]


9 posted on 01/23/2007 6:26:57 PM PST by familyop
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To: elhombrelibre
Assuming the accuracy of this report, then we truly are down to the final stretch. Either we will take military action, or the Iranians will have nuclear weapons.

In my opinion, we have waited far too long: giving the Europeans so much time to do nothing but dawdle was not a wise decision.

10 posted on 01/23/2007 6:41:49 PM PST by snowsislander
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11 posted on 01/23/2007 6:44:03 PM PST by monkapotamus
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Agreed!


12 posted on 01/23/2007 6:44:21 PM PST by elhombrelibre (After 9/11, Bush went to war with terrorists and their supporters. Democrats war against him.)
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OMG Monk that funny ROFL


13 posted on 01/23/2007 6:44:44 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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Well, if Iran wants to work on plutonium bomb, it has to improve what N. Koreans have, because the NK nuclear test in last Oct. was fishy, the bomb's yield too low.

However, since they run a lot of uranium enrichment facilities, they could go for an uranium bomb, in which case their task is less complicated, I suppose.

14 posted on 01/23/2007 7:00:21 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, pogri, midget sh*tbag)
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To: familyop

You're right. There is a lot of wishful thinking taking the place of analysis and hardheaded realism.


15 posted on 01/23/2007 7:04:50 PM PST by elhombrelibre (After 9/11, Bush went to war with terrorists and their supporters. Democrats war against him.)
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To: Disturbin

Unfortunately, the people in charge in Iran are nuts. Anyone with good sense or decency doesn't get to be president.


16 posted on 01/23/2007 7:08:44 PM PST by elhombrelibre (After 9/11, Bush went to war with terrorists and their supporters. Democrats war against him.)
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I think we now know that the "Surge" in Iraq as well as increased Naval presence in the gulf is aimed at Iran.
Either it is to deal with Iran directly or provide a defense in response to an Israeli attack.

As for a "dud" in the NK last year there is some speculation that with Russian help the NK's helped with design of a "Z" tunnel.
A "Z" tunnel makes two horizontal 90* turns at the same time making two 90* turns vertically.
The result is a reduction of seismic shock and neuron leaks. It would be unwise to assume the NK test was a "DUD".

17 posted on 01/23/2007 7:20:46 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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Of course they are ... Little Kim's fireworks show was as much sales demo as it was test. What we need is for a Chloe O'Brien to tweak the design plans and, oh my, an industrial accident ensues. Does elBaradei also do OSHA inspections?


18 posted on 01/23/2007 7:31:23 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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Poor Dr el Baradei is, sad to say, blind. Consequently, he's completely dependent on the eyes of his hosts.
19 posted on 01/23/2007 7:37:19 PM PST by elhombrelibre (After 9/11, Bush went to war with terrorists and their supporters. Democrats war against him.)
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I know about the Z-tunnel as well. There are competing speculations: Z-tunnel, and rigging the blast. Since it was the first test and there was a pressure put on NK research staff to show results, it is possible that the first one was less than satisfactory. Now that they got the first one away, I am curious about the 2nd test.

If they put it off indefinitely, it could mean that they blinked or that they are not confident about their bomb and afraid to show that their bomb is really dud.

Was small seismic shock due to tunnel design or their bomb being dud? Nobody knows for sure. In my personal opinion, it was still a dud despite Z-tunnel design. However, the next one may be not.

20 posted on 01/23/2007 7:50:43 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, pogri, midget sh*tbag)
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