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Report has 'smoking gun' on climate (IPCC's 'Mother of All Reports', look for an "iconic statement")
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/22/07 | Seth Borenstein - ap

Posted on 01/22/2007 8:48:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

Would NOAA. a government agency that relies on annual federal funding be prone to issue an everything is all OK report, or would it likely be biased to claim the atmospheric sky is falling report--and something better be done soon (by NOAA) report?

Hmmmm.


41 posted on 01/22/2007 9:50:34 PM PST by petertare (!)
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To: lostlakehiker

"No one with any CLUE is arguing. I have seen glaciers fading away, year by year. A lot of us have. The evidence is unarguable except by fools who love the sound of their own voice arguing."

Many people who do have a CLUE are arguing. The majority of them are prestigious researchers and Professors who say the ninnies espousing these theories are just that: ninnies.


42 posted on 01/22/2007 9:50:49 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: calcowgirl
"A number of self-described scientists are collaborating with the world's most creative fiction writers and conmen...."

As Rush is fond of saying... "It looks as if you have actually swerved right into the truth with that thought!!!"

Those "conmen" are also public policy advisers and CONsultants to Governor Schwartzenfibber!!! (who is having an undue effect on the POTUS unfortunately)

Could we get Laura's or even Barbara Bush's phone records under the FOIA? I'd like to see if Maria Shriver Schwartzenegger's phone number shows up anywhere and with what frequency!!! (I mean, we could have a First Lady Troica goin on here)

43 posted on 01/22/2007 9:53:24 PM PST by SierraWasp (Just another CA conservative floundering in the darkness of Schwartzeneggerism!!! HELP!!!)
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To: Gondring; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl
"Richard Alley of Penn State University"

""A very reasonable and bright geoscientist...not "off the deep end"..."

"The future is bleak, scientists said."

He is NOW!!!

44 posted on 01/22/2007 10:00:07 PM PST by SierraWasp (Just another CA conservative floundering in the darkness of Schwartzeneggerism!!! HELP!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Jerry Mahlman is the inventor of the much maligned "hockey stick" temperature graph which ignores the Medieval Warming Period and other climatic events which interfere with his cockamamie theories.
45 posted on 01/22/2007 10:03:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Rembrandt; lostlakehiker
My reply to all this nonsense is that

as long as we keep having weather, we will keep having predictions of imminent catastrophe!

46 posted on 01/22/2007 10:06:22 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (I hereby pledge to endeavor to eliminate most sarcasm from my posts (NOT!))
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To: NormsRevenge

I think global warming will be a good thing myself. There will be more arable land and despite rising sea levels there will be more coastal areas that you'd want to either live in or visit.


47 posted on 01/22/2007 10:10:27 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: NormsRevenge
The report will draw on already published peer-review science.

Unfortunately, we've learned that "peer review" doesn't mean checking the math.

48 posted on 01/22/2007 10:16:13 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: NormsRevenge

Seth Borenstein covers environment, science, health, aviation, government contracting and other technical-oriented issues. He specializes in explaining what technical issues mean to the average person.

49 posted on 01/22/2007 10:17:06 PM PST by kcvl
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To: uglybiker

It's Pure Calculated Communism.


50 posted on 01/22/2007 10:17:29 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Just sayin
He said he was told our actions are causing the worlds ice to melt. No maybe, no possibly, are.

There's been a modern melt-off going on since the mid 1700s, per the IPCC's charts.

51 posted on 01/22/2007 10:20:16 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Just sayin

Great story!!!


52 posted on 01/22/2007 10:20:47 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Rembrandt
Many people who do have a CLUE are arguing. The majority of them are prestigious researchers and Professors who say the ninnies espousing these theories are just that: ninnies.

There has been a pronounced warming from 1995 through 2005. That is pretty clear. Some of those years in between have been much more average. Where the debate lies is in exactly how much the warming is, and what the cause is. That 1995 and 2003 were exceptionally hot globally isn't being debated by anyone who has paid attention.

53 posted on 01/22/2007 10:23:44 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Jerry Mahlman is the inventor of the much maligned "hockey stick" temperature graph which ignores the Medieval Warming Period and other climatic events which interfere with his cockamamie theories.

Ummm. Michael Mann.

54 posted on 01/22/2007 10:24:58 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: elmer fudd
There will be more arable land and despite rising sea levels there will be more coastal areas that you'd want to either live in or visit.

I figure the fishing should be pretty good over the Outer Manhattan Banks....

What I dread is all the coastal refugees fleeing to my neck of the woods. We don't need Libs moving here.

55 posted on 01/22/2007 10:33:34 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Don't worry. I live a mile from the beach and never hear or see any evidence of rising sea levels.


56 posted on 01/22/2007 10:42:17 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Don't worry. I live a mile from the beach and never hear or see any evidence of rising sea levels.


57 posted on 01/22/2007 10:42:18 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: DennisR

"Well, they are scientists, so they have to be right...right?"

Of course. Just like they were right when they said:
The sun revolves around the earth.
The earth is flat.
Global cooling.
And on, and on, and on.


58 posted on 01/22/2007 10:47:07 PM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: DennisR
What is a "pear review"? :)

Review held in a pear orchard?

59 posted on 01/22/2007 11:12:52 PM PST by calex59
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To: NormsRevenge
the 12-page summary for policymakers will be edited in secret word-by-word by governments officials for several days next week and released to the public on Feb. 2

Not scientists..."government officials".

She is letting out the big secret--The IPCC is mostly a collection of bureaucrats and grantseeking whores, not reputable scientists at all. Why "edited in secret?" because they don't want inconvenient truths leaking out, such as the exposure that data and conclusions in the original "epoch-making" IPCC report were cooked in the dark of night before it was released.

60 posted on 01/22/2007 11:15:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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