Boeing Introduces New Interior for 747-8 Intercontinental

Boeing.com ^ | Jan. 18, 2007 | Staff

[Paleo Conservative]

Another big order for 747's could actually put the 747 ahead of the A380 in terms of orders since the A380 was launched.

[Paleo Conservative]

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.

[cmsgop]

I want a house like that, if the Bar is upstairs,I'm buying.......

[Radio_Silence]

That's ridiculous. A slick interior but a struggling airline is not going to buy a 747-8i so they can fly a bar around the world. That space will be devoted to passenger seats or the airline should buy a smaller plane.

[Tainan]

I saw that a 787 Dreamliner has been sold to a Swiss group, Provait Air I think, for use as a VIP a/c.

Now thats luxury. Better than a A318 Elite IMO.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

But the French will say that most orders for the 747-8I is for freighters, and not Pax, I say,,, TO BAD, it all counts.

[cmsgop]

Well aren't you Mr.Poopie Pants....

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I struggling airline wouldn't pony up the cash for a huge capital investment like a 747 unless they had the cash to pay for it.
So will, and some won't keep that bar, but, most won't ( if any ) will go for the loft option.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

opps, I meant, a airline, instead of I airline,

[Paleo Conservative]

But the French will say that most orders for the 747-8I is for freighters, and not Pax, I say,,, TO BAD, it all counts.

And how many A380 freighter orders does Airbus have?

Supposedly Airbus has to sell 420 A380's just to break even. If Boeing sold just 420 or 500 747-8's, the 747-8 would be an enormous success, and the total production of all models of 747's would be greater than 1,900 -- greater than the 1,832 prduction run of 727's. Unless Airbus sells, 900 - 1,000 copies of the A380 with no addtional investment in improved versions, Airbus will have a lower rate of return than if they invested in US T-Bills.

[Paleo Conservative]

That's ridiculous. A slick interior but a struggling airline is not going to buy a 747-8i so they can fly a bar around the world. That space will be devoted to passenger seats or the airline should buy a smaller plane.

The space behind the wall is a galley. On previous 747's you boarded right into the galley area. There's not much space wasted, it's just laid out in a more attractive way.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I am not sure how many A-380 freighters were ordered, but, I heard news that even UPS might cancel their orders.
I think, The A-380F only had about 20 orders or so.
If Emirates were to cancel their ( or cancel half ) of their 45 plane order, that would put the A-380 program in serious jeopardy.
Even if the 747-8I were ( Pax and Freight ) to only get 200 orders, it would be big success.

[Paleo Conservative]

I am not sure how many A-380 freighters were ordered, but, I heard news that even UPS might cancel their orders.

I was making a rhetorical question. I pinged an article earlier today about the UPS cancellation.

[Radio_Silence]

Sorry everyone. Don't get me wrong. I've worked with Boeing in the past and several of the airlines and absolutely love the fact that they're kicking the crap out of Airbus.

My point is that if you are a struggling airline, which almost all are, it is in your best interest to maximize seating capacity on the plane to generate as much revenue as you can. It does not make sense to waste that space on something as frivolous as a bar when you could fit four or five more first class seats in that space. It's a poor decision economically to waste space on an aircraft.

Besides, this is all marketing anyways. The airlines have final say on seat configuration. I was working in Australia a couple of years ago for the big airline down there and we all got a good laugh out of the A380 literature that showed a bowling alley in the plane. That most have wasted space for at least 100 or so seats.

[sionnsar]

"The 747 family's unique interior and structural design have provided passengers with memorable flying experiences for decades,"

Yah. My memorable flying experiences, including on long-haul flights on Boeing craft, are for the most part of feeling like I'm in a sardine can. And the very worst, SF to Sydney on a 747, is one I have NO desire to ever repeat.

Maybe that's why I'm thinking about a job with ZERO travel.

[Radio_Silence]

Very true. Maybe its the camera angle of that photo but that space looks pretty wide open. Much more area than I would expect of the 747 galley area.

[sionnsar]

That space will be devoted to passenger seats

The airline beancounters will see to that in about 5 seconds.

[BluH2o]

OK ... what about leg room in coach? Some airlines, mostly long haul carriers offer up to 39 inches ... you can have a great aircraft but if you're shoe horned in ascetics add little value.

[sionnsar]

if you're shoe horned in ascetics add little value.

Ascetics add lots of value -- especially if they're in the seat in front of you and can be persuaded to not recline the seat because it produces too much comfort. Aesthetics on the other hand...

*\;-)

[Paleo Conservative]

But that's the entrance to the plane. First class and business class passengers will either turn left or go up the stairs while economy passengers will turn right. There's got to be quite a bit of room to handle up to 479 passengers boarding. One of the options will be galleys in the currently unused crown space above the economy section. This will allow another 12 economy seats.