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Bush won't reauthorize eavesdropping program
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Posted on 01/17/2007 11:21:09 AM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: oceanview

"We"? LOL, I doubt that.


81 posted on 01/17/2007 12:21:53 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: tobyhill

Yeah...but Congress is causing 95% of our problems in this great nation of ours...so whom is going to blame them for another attack on the U.S. that actually has some pull on the American voters?? Kind of a dumb question but I hope you get my point....


82 posted on 01/17/2007 12:22:06 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: MaestroLC

I think Bush is simply tired of it all, and likely got this advice from Gonzales and said "sure, go ahead".


83 posted on 01/17/2007 12:22:42 PM PST by oceanview
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To: roses of sharon

you doubt what?


84 posted on 01/17/2007 12:23:30 PM PST by oceanview
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Are the terms intercepts which only disclose that electronic transmissions were made (which are not wiretaps) and actual wiretaps being used interchangeably here?
85 posted on 01/17/2007 12:24:21 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: oceanview

You must write fiction on a regular basis....


86 posted on 01/17/2007 12:24:47 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show someone with bad knees)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

yeah, well read post 59 for Mark Levin's comments. A person who understand this issue both constitutionally, and politically. if you don't like my thoughts, read what he has to say.


87 posted on 01/17/2007 12:24:51 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
look, we know this adminisrtation is politically inept.



That's just your opinion. Please do NOT include me as one who thinks that.
88 posted on 01/17/2007 12:25:03 PM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: MaestroLC

Well, the enemy knew all about the program since their buddies in the Senate, Rockefellar and Reid and other blabbermouths announced the program. So, in essence it was mostly neutralized anyway, but I tend to agree that atleast this way, the program won't be undercut by the lefties in Congress. Sometimes you have to play best with the lousy hand you're dealt and Bush is doing the best he can under these conditions.


89 posted on 01/17/2007 12:25:09 PM PST by princess leah
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To: gov_bean_ counter

none of this changes NSA's work - they still intercept. this has to do with the mechanism by which they pass intercepted information "back into" the domestic law enforcement apparatus, to be acted upon.


90 posted on 01/17/2007 12:26:44 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Bush is under seige by the MSM, democrats, RINOS, and 80% republicans. He is hunkered down until his term is up. Where and who is the calvary for him unless it is the performance of the military to superhuman feats. He is hogtied, and it is not to the benefit of the country. The liberals have glommed onto a forumula that is working for them, but will cost the country much.

The libs extole the presidential virtue of Obama, but cannot say anything more than he speaks welll, though he has nothing to say. We could get a DJ to do that. Hilllary is flapping her jaws and saying nothing, but she, having spent 2 days in Iraq and Afghanistan, is now the preeminent expert on the military requirements for bringing peace to those countries, and the leftist media just have orgasims over her being kind enough to speak to them, even though it is all scripted. No substantive questions for the left. Bomb throwing at Bush. This is how this country is best administrated? For the life of me, I cannot see it.

91 posted on 01/17/2007 12:26:52 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: princess leah
What Is the White House Thinking? [by Mark R. Levin]

Is there no principle subject to negotiation? Is there no course subject to reversal? For the Bush administration to argue for years that this program, as operated, was critical to our national security and fell within the president's Constitutional authority, to then turnaround and surrender presidential authority this way is disgraceful. The administration's repudiating all the arguments it has made in testimony, legal briefs and public statements. This goes to the heart of the White House's credibility. How can it cast away such a fundamental position of principle and law like this?

January 17
By LARA JAKES JORDAN
Secret Court to Govern Wiretapping Plan 
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92 posted on 01/17/2007 12:27:32 PM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: MizSterious
We really don't need enemies. We're just so doggoned good at it ourselves, we can dispense with outside enemies.


93 posted on 01/17/2007 12:27:46 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: AmeriBrit

OK, you can be one of the people who thinks that the administration's political apparatus is stellar.


94 posted on 01/17/2007 12:28:04 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Getsmart64

I get your point and it's a good point that I couldn't answer other than we have some really dumb citizens.


95 posted on 01/17/2007 12:29:50 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: oceanview
The dems were going to take this administration to Court over these wiretaps.

He pre-empted them.

96 posted on 01/17/2007 12:33:16 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: princess leah

the administration didn't need to "play" at all. congress had options - they could have challenged the constitutionality of the president's power here. If they had won, the FISA oversight would have been restored (which happened now anyway).

at least with this approach, we could have had a political issue to fight over. let the Dems be the ones to take down terrorist surveillance.


97 posted on 01/17/2007 12:34:09 PM PST by oceanview
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To: mnehrling

You are spoiling the fun of the kneejerks. They don't want to think this thru they'd rather bash the President. Makes them feel sooo superior.


98 posted on 01/17/2007 12:34:26 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: OldFriend

and you talk as if that is a good thing. why "pre-empt" them? to what end?


99 posted on 01/17/2007 12:35:08 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Pukin Dog
You just know the dems were going to shop for a Court to force the President to abandon the wire tapping.

Then we'd have to depend upon the USSC.

This was a good move.

The know it alls, can't be bothered to think it thru.

100 posted on 01/17/2007 12:37:19 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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