Showdown Looms in Persian Gulf as US Sends 2nd Aircraft Carrier

Arutz Sheva - IsraelNationalNews ^ | 1/16/7 | Gil Zohar

[Ainast]

lol I realize that lmao, but I mean cmon who knew they painted helo pads green and yellow.

[romanesq]

Are you guys just having a good time or do you not care about what the Constitution says?

There is no open authorization for the President to act against anyone other than Iraq at the moment.

Telling Congress what he (the President) did is not part of the Constitution.

[romanesq]

Well RightWhale, you must have been submerged during the Senate vote on Gulf War I.

I listened to it live on the radio. Guess that was just a meaningless constitutional exercise.

[romanesq]

The President certainly doesn't need authorization to refuel an allies jets.
I doubt the Israelis will make the attempt. They don't have enough payload to guarantee the job gets done.

For that matter, there is no guarantee the US has the payload for Iranian sites either. We don't know for sure other secret sites that may be paralleling their work or in fact further ahead in nuclear development.

It's a very bad game of chicken we are facing. Very bad.

[romanesq]

Using the War Powers Act to attack Iran is going to rip this country apart.
There's no way that 60 days of warfare is going to be acceptable to the Congress or the American people.

I say this not in defense of Iran or our enemies as a whole, but strictly from a constitutional basis, this can't be a unilateral action by the Executive without consultations with key congressional leaders of both parties.

[Nachoman]

This is a diversion. We're taking Canada in the spring so we can have a place to live when global warming has the planet in its grip.

[matt1234]

Using the War Powers Act to attack Iran is going to rip this country apart. There's no way that 60 days of warfare is going to be acceptable to the Congress or the American people.

I say this not in defense of Iran or our enemies as a whole, but strictly from a constitutional basis, this can't be a unilateral action by the Executive without consultations with key congressional leaders of both parties.

You don't seem to get it. It doesn't matter how congress feeeeels or the people feeeeel. They have no power to stop it. It absolutely CAN BE a soley executive action as provided by law. Neither the constitution nor the law prohibit such an action. Screw the lefties; let them howl. They're traitors and cowards anyway.

[melancholy]

BTW, Jveritas understands the value of freedom and the dangers of terrorism. He volunteers his time and energey to translate the captured documents from Iraq, so the truth of them will someday come out. Jveritas is a hero and deserves nothing but respect for the work he does.

I second that and thank you for spelling it out.

[melancholy]

Most likely in March

We can only guess and hope that it will not be delayed, especially with the new mobile air defense purchased from Russia.

I believe that this new mobile system will be manned by Russians.

[rahbert]

how unfortunate for those Russians tasked to operate
these systems...

[jveritas]

Thank you very much fellow freepers, I greatly appreciate your kind words.

[WhiteGuy]

Next they'll be sending the USS Maddox....................

[melancholy]

how unfortunate for those Russians tasked to operate these systems...

LOL....When they get killed, Putin will protest calling them advisors and trainers! It never fails.

[Orange1998]

I will note jveritas in my Hero's list. Keep up the good work. I will forever be grateful.

[Nancee]

Just wanted to let you know that I am aware of this situation and grateful for the ping. You are keeping me up to date whether or not I am able to acknowledge it at the time. So, thank you, friend!

[jveritas]

Thank you very much, I am just your humble freeper :)

[Grampa Dave]

If Tehran Knew!:

"In America, they lie for tactical reasons, stating over and over that military action against Iran is unlikely. However in Iran, out of ignorance, they reiterate that American military action against their country is impossible because the US is "unable" to do so!

We say and hope our analysis is wrong. A possible military strike against Iranian nuclear facilities is in the final stages. Unless a political miracle occurs that revives the halted dialog between Iran and the international community, Iran and its neighboring countries should not be surprised by a scenario that includes American military action. "

Just maybe, President Bush is purposely allowing the media and the left to spout their garbage in order to create the illusion that we are completely incapable of taking any action against Iran. It would come as a complete surprise if we did take action.

Iranian Map: Before our upcoming Victory:

Iranian Map: After our upcoming Victory:

Over the past week, the U.S. Navy has given orders to the U.S.S. John Stennis carrier battle group, based in Bremerton, WA, to steam toward the Persian Gulf, where it will join the U.S.S. Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Navy sources say the Pentagon is getting ready to announce the dispatch of a third carrier battle group – the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan – from San Diego. That will make three carrier battle groups in the region starting at around the end of January.

Oh, and along with them is the amphibious assault group led by the U.S.S. Boxer, which can land several thousand U.S. Marines to seize and destroy strategic sites near the coast at a moment’s notice. (Busheir? Bandar Abbas? Jask? The three Persian Gulf islands Iran seized from the UAE in the 1990s and has since fortified to harass Gulf shipping? Your pick).

A Quote from: The Dogs of War - Lessons of the 20th Century. By Victor Davis Hanson, (author most recently of Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power):

“"I would not wish to fight the United States - either militarily, politically, or culturally. For every threat, our history teaches us that Americans offer not just a rejoinder, but the specter of a devastating answer of a magnitude almost inconceivable to those now chanting and threatening in the streets of the Middle East.

Do they have any idea of what sort of dangerous people we really are? Do they understand the history of the names of those ships now off their coasts, like the USS Peleliu or Enterprise, or the pedigree of the 82nd or 101st Airborne?"

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[Prophet in the wilderness]

Here is a headline from another thread ( U.S. MULLS IRAN ATTACK IN EARLY 2007 ) ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1768970/posts?page=7 ) .... maybe my hunch was right after all.

[melancholy]

Yes, it's coming alright and thank you for the link.

A lot of nay-sayers on that thread. I always said that I have faith in this president to act soon rather than leaving it to a RINO or Hitlery!

[RightWhale]

Declaration of War is an actual declaration by Congress. Funding is not a declaration.