Warnings of warming 'refined'

Waterbury Republican-American ^ | January 16, 2007 | Editorial

[spunkets]

"Where is the similar list for Global Warming?"

Global warming is real, but it's a small effect. The avg temp of the Earth's surface/lower atmosphere is about 18^oC. By ~2060, the avg temp might be 19^oC. That's not a big diff. It's only about a 0.34% increase in energy. It would be a mistake to turn over control of the energy supply to the warmists, simply on the grounds that they BSing and exaggerating with vigor. Beyond that, the long term solution would require something like nuke plants, if most of the world isn't going to be sent into the stone age at their whim.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Its "fourth assessment report," due out in February, will conclude civilization's threat has been overstated, so it will lower its warming projection SWAG to 2.7 F to 7.5 F, and it's sea-level SWAG to a 17 inch rise.

There....that's better.

SWAG: An acronym for "Scientific Wild Ass Guess".

[Phantom Lord]

Could a .34% increase in energy be solely attributed to increased solar activity?

If not, why not?

[samm1148]

It is warming; no doubt about that. The assertion that man is doing it is what the Gaia people are harping about. Just my two cents but I've observed that most science is logical: Steven Hawking writes about relativity in a way that the layman can say "oh yeah; that makes sense."

I'm not claiming to be able to debate relativity with a mathematician, but it makes sense to me. The global warming argument of man being responsible just doesn't make sense.

A few posters on here are good examples of the opposite of critical thinking: When they assert that global warming is caused by man they: cherry pick facts to support their arguments; never confronting the con argument, frequently use circular reasoning,and never resolve past criticisms of their pet theories. They just move on to a new explanation.

I just wonder where the money trail leads. It seems to me that our last orgasm of environmentalism went into the pockets of bureaucrats and a conglomerate of waste management companies.

By the way a great post from Rumplemeyer:

"Just a thought, from about 1830 until about 1940 the USA burned mostly coal as fuel for the industrial engine of the country and any change in climate temperature doesn't seem to be noted. Wouldn't you think that all the resulting emissions for that period would have had an effect? and wouldn't that effect been changed by the emission restrictions introduced since?
Just wondering."

When I say the Mother Gaia argument doesn't make sense this statement referenced above is what I mean: Why haven't the reduced emissions influenced the environment? We were told that acid rain was the big horror in the seventies and that there was another ice age on the way. What happened there? Mother Gaia's followers haven't explained the foul up there; what happened?

[ssaftler]

Agreed. Tell my freeping PG&E bill about "Global Warming", so I don't end up using twice as much gas to heat the house as in normal years, in spite of turning down the thermostat!

[spunkets]

"Could a .34% increase in energy be solely attributed to increased solar activity?"

The 0.34% increase in energy is the enrgy increase with a constant solar output. It's in the physics. If the Sun's output goes up, the energy captured by the atmosphere increases.

[TChris]

I could use some Global Warming^TM here in Wyoming. -30 F yesterday and -23 F today (@ 7:00 AM both times)

[sergeantdave]

"Just remind them that German scientists last year, using ice core samples from all over the Alps..."

Wonder if your aforementioned scientists are these scientists -

The high priests of global warming in Europe said their computer tells them that the European Alpine region is undergoing its warmest period in 1,300 years.

The computer also told the scientists that women using hairspray in the 1950s caused the earth to cool. Then it said that since the 1980s, Americans driving evil SUVs caused the Alpine mountain ranges to warm.

Similar warming occurred in the 10th and 12th centuries, said Reinhard Boehm, a climatologist at Austria's Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics.

This, of course, raises the question of what were the Europeans driving in the Middle Ages that caused the warming?


The reconstruction of the Alpine climate involved divining temperature, sunshine and cloud cover over a 1,300 year period by reading computer entrails. The scientists also studied tree rings and ice. However, they have yet to uncover any 10th or 12th century SUV engines.