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Why Europe Abandoned Israel (Long but spot on analysis)
American Thinker ^ | January 13, 2007 | Richard Baehr

Posted on 01/13/2007 4:23:56 PM PST by elhombrelibre

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To: elhombrelibre

Why?

Because standing by is easier than standing up.


21 posted on 01/13/2007 6:23:50 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: airborne
It's true most of them are content to sit back while we do the heavy lifting, but it's not correct that that's why they are as they are. For many, if not most, of them it can be said that they're fundamentally and philosophically opposed to Israel and the US.
22 posted on 01/13/2007 6:33:50 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Saddam was against Iraq's liberation before the Democrats and MSM.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Even if that's true,why is Europe standing by while Islam conquers them?

Certainly not because they are opposed to Israel.


23 posted on 01/13/2007 6:36:40 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: RonF
We have not had a war on our soil (a war, not attacks) essentially since 1812.

What was that thing that happened from 1861-1865? Just a bit of unpleasantness?

24 posted on 01/13/2007 7:37:29 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 108-112)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

25 posted on 01/13/2007 7:38:22 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 108-112)
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To: elhombrelibre

bump for later


26 posted on 01/13/2007 7:43:04 PM PST by Ditter
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To: elhombrelibre

Very, very good article by Richard Baehr. Thanks for posting.


27 posted on 01/13/2007 8:33:05 PM PST by PGalt
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To: airborne

Denial. Deep and determined denial.


28 posted on 01/13/2007 8:59:56 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Saddam was against Iraq's liberation before the Democrats and MSM.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Europe doesn't have to worry about defense, they have America for that. I recommend we liberate France again (3rd time)and this time we appoint Germany to administer it for us.
29 posted on 01/13/2007 9:26:15 PM PST by NickFlooding (Canceling out liberal votes since 1972.)
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To: elhombrelibre

bttt


30 posted on 01/13/2007 9:43:36 PM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: gcruse

This article is from the "American Thinker", not People Magazine, hence the length isn't a problem for those that like to "think". Problem with too many of our American readers is that they want the 20 second soundbite rather than an actual in depth article. One of the reasons American movies are now so short is because so is the American attention span.

Back in the olden days, like in the Lincoln-Douglas debates, they would speak for hours. It was actually a form of entertainment as well as debate, as people would bring food to these events which were like large-scale picnics and a social venue as well as debates. At least the Internet, through e-mails and websites such as FR are opening up forums for the art of a form of writing again, which is now pretty much minimal. Hardly anyone writes letters anymore.

E-mails are the new version of letters, and thank goodness for it as letter-writing itself is now mostly a lost art. But I ramble, and thus risk being accused of being as verbose as the writer of this article. Finis.


31 posted on 01/13/2007 9:56:42 PM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: Alouette

My granparents never looked back once on Old Europe. Nor will I.


32 posted on 01/14/2007 12:22:07 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: elhombrelibre; Alouette; SJackson
Can someone forward this to Avigdor Lieberman and the leadership of Yisrael-Beitenu?
Liberman is delusional enough to want Israel to join the EU.
33 posted on 01/14/2007 12:33:58 AM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Western Europeans want to believe that all international disputes can be resolved amicably

They can ....

in Western Europe ....

under the Pax Americana ....

sfter the U.S. imposed the Pax Americana by force of arms

34 posted on 01/14/2007 12:44:26 AM PST by Polybius
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To: airborne
Even if that's true,why is Europe standing by while Islam conquers them?
Why do we do nothing agaist the Reconquista of the Southwest?
Political Correctness, Social Marxism, Third Worldism, and universalised religion.

We don't believe in our nations, our heritage, or our virtues. Anyone who speaks the truth will be shunned or even prosecuted.

Thisis Hitler's vengence on Europe. The Nazis allied themselves with Islamists. Germany started to take in these "refugees" after War II. At the same time, the Marxist and leftists elites used Nazism and Fascism as a club against all nationalists.

Finally, Mediteranianism/The Eurabia Project is the goal of many French and European elites. They believe that they will create a new enlightened Europe and Middle East and overtake the US.

35 posted on 01/14/2007 12:59:04 AM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: Peach

Yep, the one thing that one would expect would NOT go over the heads of anyone listening, because it is there all around you, indisputably, undeniably, concretely: in Europe especially, there are Muslims everywhere, and they are the most agressive, loudest, and mouthiest part of the population. The birth rate all over Europe, Japan and Russia is dwindling and at risk, and as EVERY study shows, that same birth rate is SURGING in Islamic countries and communities. Unless Europe in general both STOPS Islamic immigration NOW, AND learns how to control their dangerous Islamic populations, OR simply deport them with a lovely parting gift of $25000, they will be overrun sometime in the 21st Century. They don't seem to care. A great percentage of Jihadists in Britain for example ARE ON WELFARE, courtesy of the British Government. So Britain is subsidizing its own destruction.


36 posted on 01/14/2007 1:11:52 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: elhombrelibre
I read to this point to find out that Mr. Baehr is a complete idiot:

A final factor of course was money- the spoils for France, and Russia and Germany from the oil for food scandal...

Germany is not as involved in the oil for food scandal, in fact, there are less people and companies involved from the German side than from America. France and Russia on the other hand are indeed big in the dirt.

37 posted on 01/14/2007 1:16:39 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: elhombrelibre

The anti-christ will soon arise in europe, the groundwork having already been laid by the elitists. Then all of europe will learn what GOD said to Israel : I will curse those who curse you, and bless those who bless you. American Christians understand this, that's why we are the sole remaining military superpower and an economic superpower as well.

There's a REAL WAR coming FReepers. We'll get pasted pretty good but EUROPE...is CURSED, get OUT asap...


38 posted on 01/14/2007 1:40:02 AM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: rmlew
Why do we do nothing agaist the Reconquista of the Southwest?

Good point.

It's later for Europe than it is for us.

Hopefully it's not too late.

39 posted on 01/14/2007 4:10:03 AM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: Michael81Dus
Germany is not as involved in the oil for food scandal,

Congratulations on being just a tiny bit pregnant.

And I suppose Germany can be forgiven for not being as deeply involved in the O-F-F corruption given that German businesses were too busy selling the components of chemical weapons to Saddam to be bothered ripping off the Iraqi people to the same degree the French and Russians were.

L

40 posted on 01/14/2007 4:20:28 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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