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Krauthammer: Stem Cell Miracle?
Washington Post Writers Group ^ | January 12, 2007 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 01/11/2007 11:35:22 PM PST by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189; narses; wagglebee
I have long supported legal abortion

I thought Krauthammer was a conservative.

I'll bear this in mind in the future when I hear him speak.

21 posted on 01/12/2007 5:36:58 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: RWR8189
I have long supported legal abortion. And I don't believe that life -- meaning the attributes and protections of personhood -- begins at conception.

What a bizarre contradiction of philosophies. If he doesn't believe that life begins at conception, then why does he feel that destroying an embryo is crossing some kind of line? I generally like Krauthammer, but this is the kind of moral disconnect that makes me question his intelligence.

22 posted on 01/12/2007 5:45:58 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

Krauthammer is wheelchair bound and also a physician (psychiatrist) - must make the dems gnash their teeth to not be able to discard his logic by discounting his lack of condition entitling him to an opinion


23 posted on 01/12/2007 10:18:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: mware
This is a revolutionary finding. Amniotic fluid surrounds the baby in the womb during pregnancy. It is routinely drawn out by needle in amniocentesis. The procedure carries little risk and is done for legitimate medical purposes that have nothing to do with stem cells. If it nonetheless yields a harvest of stem cells, we have just stumbled upon an endless supply.

And not just endless, but uncontroversial. No embryos are destroyed. The cells are just floating there, as if waiting for science to discover them.

It has been my understanding that amniocentesis can, and does, often cause spontaneous miscarriage. Additionally, if the needle is not placed correctly, it can do much harm to the fetus. I don't see this as a win win.

24 posted on 01/12/2007 1:17:07 PM PST by jtill (Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth!)
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To: jtill
I agree with you this procedure still holds danger.

The best hope for all is adult stem cells and umbilical cord blood.

25 posted on 01/12/2007 2:12:34 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Reform4Bush

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26 posted on 01/12/2007 2:20:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: geronrocks

Ping


27 posted on 01/12/2007 2:21:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
He is not only wheelchair bound, he was on the President's Council For Bioethics. He is a wise man ...

Even better, amniotic fluid might prove to yield an ideal stem cell -- not as primitive as embryonic stem cells and therefore less likely to grow uncontrollably into tumors, but also not as developed as adult stem cells and therefore more "pluripotential'' in the kinds of tissues it can produce. ... If it is proved that these are the Goldilocks of stem cells, history will record the amniotic breakthrough as the turning point in the evolution of stem cell research from a narrow, difficult, delicate and morally dubious enterprise into an uncontroversial one with raw material produced unproblematically every day.

28 posted on 01/12/2007 2:28:52 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
He is a wise man ...

I heartily concur.

29 posted on 01/12/2007 8:58:04 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (I hereby pledge to endeavor to eliminate most sarcasm from my posts... (NOT!))
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To: RWR8189; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


30 posted on 01/14/2007 12:41:47 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: xzins

What's your point? That anyone who isn't pro-life is not a conservative? Nonsense. As a staunch pro-life conservative, I have much more, politically, in common with Charles Krauthammer than I do with a pro-life liberal like Sen Casey from PA. Krauthammer is very supportive of the President's judicial choices. Let's see how the PA senator does in that regard.


31 posted on 01/14/2007 12:58:35 PM PST by go-dubya-04
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Faust. Nice comparision. I prefer "snake oil research" myself.


32 posted on 01/14/2007 1:00:57 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: MHGinTN

Krauthammer is a very conflicted man when it comes to this issue. I can not explain it really. He supports abortion by redefining life as personhood and then expresses concern for experimenting on human life at the embryonic stage. Very smart man, very conflicted. That's my opinion.


33 posted on 01/14/2007 1:01:54 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: go-dubya-04

Casey is not pro-life. He's a phony who had to run as his father.


34 posted on 01/14/2007 1:03:30 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

"Snake oil research" works for me, too. 8~)


35 posted on 01/14/2007 1:04:31 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: RWR8189
You simply have to have a healthy respect for the human capacity for
doing evil in pursuit of the good.


"Few things are more powerful than the human capacity for rationalization"

...that's just something I heard in church once...
36 posted on 01/14/2007 1:12:24 PM PST by VOA
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To: go-dubya-04; Salvation; narses

Exactly.

Anyone who is anti-life is not a conservative. It's not possible.

Conservatives don't deny basic rights.

The most basic right is life.

Without it there is no other that matter. Dead people don't care much about guns, taxes, press, speech, etc.

All those have been stolen from them when they were murdered.

I will take a pro-life anyone over an anti-life anyone any day of the week. That's why Giuliani is no conservative, McCain is no conservative, and Krauthammer is no conservative.


37 posted on 01/14/2007 6:32:00 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: jwalsh07

Krauthammer's stance on abortion is more nuanced than some have stated. I don't agree with it, but it is not as simplistic as xharacterized here.


38 posted on 01/15/2007 9:14:19 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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