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2007 – Year of the electric car
cosmosmagazine.com ^ | 1/10/07 | William Moore

Posted on 01/11/2007 11:00:00 AM PST by dangerdoc

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To: Jeff Gordon
I saw my first Moller ad in the early 1980s.

Just goes to show you the power of marketing. 20, 30,40 years of investor money with (arguably) no results. Moller's a genius.

21 posted on 01/11/2007 12:10:38 PM PST by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA} Proud Infidel Since 1968)
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To: dangerdoc

And it will succeed just as much as the last Kalifornia electric car mandate. With an energy density 1/3 of a gasoline powered car, it just will not enjoy any widespread public support. And they still not have answered questions about battery lifetime. If you still have to replace every 6 or 7 years, this will be a nightmare.


22 posted on 01/11/2007 12:21:09 PM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: nuke rocketeer

But you can only use gasoline once. ;)


23 posted on 01/11/2007 12:22:18 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

And refill cheaply, even at $3/gallon. You don't have to replace the tank every 7 years or so like a battery.

You can also refill a 33 gallon tank in about 5 minutes or so, while it will take an hour or better to recharge a battery that has 66% less energy than the gas tank holds.


24 posted on 01/11/2007 12:25:19 PM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: nuke rocketeer; All

Electric Cars are about eliminiating personal passenger vehicles via poor technology.

On the one hand the government planners want to order everyone to ride mass transit (and generous bonds to build mass transit) AND then they want to mandate the type and form of the private vehcles.

Even the hollywood celebs are hypocrits since they now rent for a few hours the few alternative fuel or hybrid limos. (they drive to the event in regular guzzling vehicles and just use the environmental sensitive vehicle to go around the block)


25 posted on 01/11/2007 12:33:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Based on their claims, battery should be good for about 20 years.


26 posted on 01/11/2007 1:20:23 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc
>>>>"Everybody, read the last part of the article on how they plan on selling cars based on government mandates"<<<<<

The same Government that stands in the way of building Nuclear Power Plants, Exploration and Tapping of other known energy sources and reserves.

They have quite the gig and who gets the bill? (raise your hand)

TT

(Who was that comedian that smashed watermelons in his act? We need a Cabinet position created to do just that... SMASH WATERMELONS!)
27 posted on 01/11/2007 1:21:19 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: dangerdoc

ALTI is a perpetual penny stock, so the investment world doesn't think too much of their batteries.


28 posted on 01/11/2007 1:27:23 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: TexasTransplant

Gallagher and his Sledge-O-Matic.


29 posted on 01/11/2007 3:16:29 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: dangerdoc
The article is confusing and deliberately deceptive -- by design.

Even if this car exists, and I seriously doubt I will live to see it, its price tag for the foreseeable future, over $100,000, makes it a procedural joke in manipulating "global warming" and energy credits laws and agreements.

30 posted on 01/11/2007 7:24:45 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: dangerdoc

Yes, their claims. That remains to be proven. I ahve seen many claims for batteries since I graduated engineering school in 1979. None have ever panned out. Most were out and out scams trying to bilk investors and/or taxpayers.


31 posted on 01/11/2007 8:25:56 PM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: nuke rocketeer

Well that's not entirely true is it? I know the lithium battery has made tremendous strides in the last ten years. Not enough to power a car industry but there is actually movement on this front.


32 posted on 01/12/2007 5:34:44 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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33 posted on 01/12/2007 6:27:50 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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