Trial will debate 2nd Amendment rights

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 6, 2007 | Bob Unruh

[Dead Corpse]

No, it wasn't. It was unregistered machine guns.

Weren't you just saying he was arrested for forming a militia? Where in the Constitution does it give the FedGov power to operate a "machine gun registry"? Or require registration of ANY firearms fro that matter?

Poor little Roscoe... FR's dumbest little troll.

[cbkaty]

Hey retard, when the Second Amendment was written, there were no such thing as machine guns

Retard? Well, Mr. Smart-guy...there were cannon when it was written...and one is prohibited from owning a cannon now.....

Your response?

[Mojave]

Weren't you just saying he was arrested for forming a militia?

No. When you can't address arguments, you invent them.

[Dead Corpse]

Laws are indeed laws. But what was supposed to seperate the US out from other countries and their capricious laws was our Constitution. No power was to be exorcised outside the limits given. One of those states quite clearly, "shall not be infringed".

A law absent Constitutional authority is NO LAW and should be treated as such.

If you had half a clue you'd know this and agree. That you don't, makes you a liar. Two wars? Purple hearts? What? In your fruit loops maybe... Either that you you belong to the John Kerry fan club.

[Mojave]

one is prohibited from owning a cannon now..... Your response?

http://www.cannon-mania.com/consignment.htm

[Dead Corpse]

His fraudulent position and counterfeit organization were his failed defense. -Roscoe. Post 649.

Your words. Again, you prove yourself to be little more than a worthless troll.

[tacticalogic]

Beltway bureaucrats seem to see the issues in very different terms than regular citizens. Things look different on the other end of the the tax pipeline.

[Mojave]

Exactly. His fraudulent position and counterfeit organization were his failed defense.

Points you fear to address.

[Dead Corpse]

If they had tried to act in any official capacity in the name of the State, which they didn't, there would be another set of charges. Interestingly, those would be a lot more valid than these unConstitutional firearms charges.

But, that wouldn't suit your flame-bait posting style would it? Can't have people getting into logical, fact based arguments on a thread you have decided to piss all over.

The Second Amendment is about an individual Right to bear arms. Anything else is sophistry and lunacy.

[Mojave]

If they had tried to act in any official capacity in the name of the State

Fake rank, no appointment by governor, counterfeit militia organization.

which they didn't

http://www.arkansasmilitia.com/documents/notice_governor.htm

there would be another set of charges.

Beg that question!

Again, you refuse to address his actual words and his fraudulent defense,

[Dead Corpse]

Ermm... it appears to be you that didn't read what he wrote, nor what he is charged with. He notified the governor that they would be there to be called up if needed. And? That is exactly like putting your name on a First Responder list. If Fincher had actually tried to go out and pull any kind of law enforcement duty on his own, that would have been fraud.

He didn't. It wasn't. End of story.

You are just trying to fabricate an argument where you know you have none. Ie; sophistry.

Stupid little troll Roscoe. All these years and you haven't learned a damn thing...

[Mojave]

He notified the governor that they would be there to be called up if needed.

You don't quote, you just lie.

In order to form the companies of Infantry, Cavalry, and Artillery as ordained by Article Eleven of the Arkansas Constitution, we have claimed the following:

For the Infantry: Any rifle, pistol, or shotgun, by any name known, whether automatic or semi-automatic, of past, present, or future design, regardless of size, caliber, barrel length, or magazine capacity...

We bring to your attention the possibility of conflict with some predatory agencies employed within the federal government who scoff at we, the people, and consider themselves immune to our state’s laws and boundaries. One such agency is The Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF)....

We, having ordained and reserved by Constitutional Article, the “Right to Keep and Bear Arms,” and have by the same Constitution defined the Militia Companies to be formed and armed, have no intention of surrendering that right...

Wayne Fincher, Lt. Commander

[Dead Corpse]

Um... yes? And? What's wrong with what he wrote? Worse, why don't you agree with the sentiment expressed?

[Mojave]

Um... yes?

Lessee, the fake Lt. Commander claimed the right to form an organized militia without the governor's approval and to attack federal law enforcement agencies. But you claimed that he merely "notified the governor that they would be there to be called up if needed."

You've been caught lying so often you've lost count.

[Dead Corpse]

Um...no. He said that certain rogue agencies, which the FedGov has no legitimate authority to be operating, may try and "Waco" him. He didn't say they would "attack" anyone. Yet another in a long string of lies by you.

Do you write press releases for the Brady Bunch or the DNC? They are the only other groups I can think of that would ever try and turn such plain meaning of words on their head like you do.

[Mojave]

Um...no. He said that certain rogue agencies, which the FedGov has no legitimate authority to be operating

Um, yes. That was how he described the federal law enforcement agencies he intended to attack using his counterfeit militia and fake rank.

[stm]

They also had warships back then and you can't own one of those either. What's your point?

Machine guns are man portable, when's the last time you saw someone carrying a cannon?

[tpaine]

Poor roscoe, caught up in his own hyperbole that Fincher "intended to attack".. Silly little fella.

[Mojave]

Actually, his point was factually incorrect. (What else is new?)

People do own cannons. For example, Civil War re-enactment groups.

[tpaine]

stm
Hey retard, when the Second Amendment was written, there were no such thing as machine guns.


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Retard? Well, Mr. Smart-guy...there were cannon when it was written...and one is prohibited from owning a cannon now.....

Your response?
cbkaty


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Well done Katy.

Notice our 'combat vet' claims that cannon cannot be carried. Pack howitzers anyone?

At least he admits that: "--Machine guns are man portable --' How bout mortars?

When's the last time you saw someone carrying a mortar, stm ?

We can own 'warships', tanks, [sans breechloading cannon] etc. without 'permits'. --

-- 'We the people' can own muzzle loading black powder mortars & cannons without permits. --
-- Yet we are unconstitutionally prohibited from owning breech loading cannon, machine guns or modern mortars.

No one can explain why we have these crazy arms infringements, least of all the people like our 'short time m-man'.

What say you stm?