Arnold Schwarzenegger Tax Increase: Anatomy of a Broken Promise

Human Events Online ^ | 1/10/2007 | Assemblyman Chuck DeVore

[kellynla]

Mr. DeVore (R.-Irvine) represents 450,000 people in coastal Orange County's 70th Assembly District. He also serves as a lieutenant colonel in the Army National Guard

[kellynla]

ping

[Dog]

OK I don't follow CA politics...... what has happened to Arnold?

[goldstategop]

If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, its a duck. If it looks like a tax and works like a tax, its a tax. Arnold isn't fooling any one by calling his health care plan taxes "fees." Its gonna be an interesting year in Sacramento.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[DustyMoment]

It is to laugh . . . . . . to think that a politician - ANY politician - will adhere to his/her campaign promises.

I think Arnold started out sincerely trying to get the state's spending under control - and promptly had his head handed to him. Turns out that the voters didn't want spending on THEIR favorite pork scheme just, just everyone else's favorite pork scheme.

[raftguide]

"calling his tax hike ideas “fees” not taxes."

Taxes are better than fees, because taxes are deductible for income tax purposes, while fees are not. Also, 4% sounds so very reasonable, but just like with workers fraudulation, ...er, I mean compensation, it started off reasonable and now is indescribably expensive since no one is interested in not spending an employer's money except the employer himself.

[kellynla]

"happened?"

nothing has "happened!"

you vote for a RINO, you get a RINO!

I told FReepers in 2003 that this clown who was campaigning as a "fiscal conservative & a social liberal" was a FRAUD!

You can't be a "fiscal conservative" and a "social liberal" at the same time...ya gotta pay for the social programs some way, some how.

And what most people don't realize is that FEES have been going through the roof for the past three years. And RINOld's stem cell research bond issue is going to cost California taxpayers SIX BILLION DOLLARS TO PAY OFF! That is partly what is "happening."

[calcowgirl]

Here's a link to an article by Arnold's finance director, explaining the twisted logic (I included links to an opposing article by Jon Coupal of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association calling for "intellectual honesty.")

CA: Governor's Health Care Reforms Do Not Include A Tax Increase (The Gubs view)

[raftguide]

"Its gonna be an interesting year in Sacramento."

No its not. The Dems control everything, so the only thing interesting is how much we have left each year when they get done.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

kelly, kelly, kelly. Apparently, you didn't get the memo. Arnold is a fiscal conservative.

Pretty quiet on these threads ain't it? LOL

[Dog]

Sorry I asked.

[TheKidster]

Conan, What is best in life?

To tax your citizens, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentation of thier women!

[streetpreacher]

B-B-But I thought he was a "fiscal conservative" and "libertarian". Remember this everytime you hear a FReeper trashing social conservatives and demanding that we support the party RINO because he is "viable".

[kellynla]

LOL

no problemo...
not to mention he's sleeping with a 'Rat.
so from his record we know who wears the pants at his house.

[kellynla]

"Here's a link to an article by Arnold's finance director, explaining the twisted logic (I included links to an opposing article by Jon Coupal of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association calling for "intellectual honesty."

Thanks...but I already have a headache. LOL

[Enterprise]

Kaleefornians - Stupid gets as stupid votes.

[dontposttome]

But - Arnold's a Republican, and he can get elected!

Sheesh.

[absalom01]

Interesting in a Chinese sense, it seems...
Of course, Arnie is using the semantic ruse of "fees" vs. "taxes" primarily to skirt the Republicans ability to deep-six a tax increase. Fees don't require a 2/3 majority, taxes do.
Interesting year, yup, that about sums it up.

[lardog]

Yeah, well don't blame me. I voted for McClintock and in Nov. voted for the libertarian candidate. Seems like all my conservative votes the last few years have gone for nought. And what's up with that? With all the conservative talk radio, FNC, many conservative publications etc. we keep losing. The Rats are taking over every where. Not just California but everywhere. Short of a full fledged revolution, I am at a loss. I am one frustrated MFer

[Enterprise]

"I voted for McClintock and in Nov. voted for the libertarian candidate."

LOL - then you must have copied my ballot. I think it was dreadful that neither McClintock nor Poochigian were elected. The problem is, and I don't know how to say this delicately or diplomatically, is that the stupid people outnumber those with reasonable intelligence, but their votes count the same. There is no other possible explanation.