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Chrysler questions climate change (Chrysler:1 Chicken-Littles: 0)
BBC ^ | 10 January 2007 | Steve Schifferes

Posted on 01/10/2007 3:49:45 AM PST by bd476

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1 posted on 01/10/2007 3:49:48 AM PST by bd476
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They have invoked the wrath of the Rockefeller-Snowe Inquisition! All prepare for Chrysler to be outlawed! (And only outlaws will have Chrysler's?)


2 posted on 01/10/2007 3:59:15 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." [H. L. Mencken]


3 posted on 01/10/2007 4:16:33 AM PST by SomeoneNeedsToSayIt
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." [H. L. Mencken]


This is the claim of both the "radical" right and the "radical" left. They are either both correct or both wrong. Moderates would hold with the latter.

Mencken was more than occasionally correct.


4 posted on 01/10/2007 4:24:23 AM PST by David Isaac
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To: SomeoneNeedsToSayIt

"The report urged governments to take urgent action now to tackle climate change, arguing that it would be much cheaper to act, rather than face the $10 trillion cost of not doing anything until later."

I am in a "let's change it" mood this morning.

"The report urged the government to take urgent action now to tackle Social Security, arguing that it would be much cheaper to act, rather than face the $10 trillion cost of not doing anything until later."

There we ho.


5 posted on 01/10/2007 4:28:35 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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Mr Jolissant's remarks illustrate the yawning gap between mainstream opinion on climate change among the educated elites...

Well, there you have it...if you don't believe that global warming is caused by man, not nature, you are an uneducated dumb-ass.  Kind of like one educated elite stated how dumb our military people are.

6 posted on 01/10/2007 4:29:27 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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The writer seemed to take offense upon hearing the truth. And certainly they are a bunch of overwrought Chicken Littles.

7 posted on 01/10/2007 4:35:00 AM PST by bd476
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To: JerseyHighlander
JerseyHighlander wrote: "They have invoked the wrath of the Rockefeller-Snowe Inquisition! All prepare for Chrysler to be outlawed! (And only outlaws will have Chrysler's?)"

ROFLOL!

8 posted on 01/10/2007 4:39:20 AM PST by bd476
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From the article: If nothing else, Mr Jolissant's remarks illustrate the yawning gap between mainstream opinion on climate change among the educated elites of Europe and America.

So the question comes to mind: How much science do our educated elites take in our elite universities, and how much science do European educated elites take in their elite universities?

9 posted on 01/10/2007 4:46:34 AM PST by megatherium
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Whether global warming actually exists is irrelevant. It is, in the hands of government and environmental activists, a convenient front for the introduction of programs and economic policies that Canadians - and most citizens of the world - would not otherwise accept.

Ms. Stewart, Canadian Environment Minister, perhaps unintentionally, has identified the two key foundations of the global warming movement. One is based in environmentalism, which essentially claims that human beings are a problem in nature. The other foundation is the old business of economic redistribution. - Global Warming The Real Agenda, Terrence Corcoran


10 posted on 01/10/2007 4:51:28 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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Chrysler does not even sell hybrids, so of course they'd say this. They want you to buy their gas cars.

I don't think people buy hybrids because they fear global warming anyway. It's to save money on gas, and this guy says that no money should be spent developing such cars.

Even if you take the global warming argument out, I think everyone would agree that big cities with alternative fuel cars would be healthier on our lungs.
11 posted on 01/10/2007 4:56:35 AM PST by callofduty
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Global warming is a natural phenomena that has nothing whatsoever to do with man.
The Earth has done this countless times in the past.
I applaud for Chrysler to having the stooch to put reason ahead of acceptance and PC-ness.


12 posted on 01/10/2007 4:59:36 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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I have no problem with reducing US consumption of oil. It will take money out of the pockets of Middle-Eastern despots and their islamo-fascist lackeys.

Clean coal and coal liquefaction will permit us to continue driving as much as we want. Of course, any technological innovations that permit better mileage would be welcome, but no one really desires tiny, cramped vehicles that are death-boxes in an accident.


13 posted on 01/10/2007 5:08:41 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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But just so as not to upset the Birkenstock crowd ...


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14 posted on 01/10/2007 5:15:01 AM PST by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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I don't think people buy hybrids because they fear global warming anyway. It's to save money on gas...

Perhaps... but from everything I've read it appears that with the high costs of hybrids it takes something like 7 years or more to break even. Then the costs of replacing batteries etc. So I'm not convinced that saving money is why people buy hybrids. It is my opinion is people buy hybrids to sooth their conscious and/or to be seen. "Look at me, I bought a hybrid, I care about the environment"
15 posted on 01/10/2007 5:16:13 AM PST by Proverbs 3-5
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The Big Three have NEVER made $$ off of small cars and probably never will. Japan made money off them when it was poor relative to the US. Now, they match American companies for every model down the line.


16 posted on 01/10/2007 5:20:14 AM PST by rbg81 (1)
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callofduty wrote: "Chrysler does not even sell hybrids, so of course they'd say this. They want you to buy their gas cars."

Baloney. That's utter and complete nonsense and a very tiresome conspiracy theory.


callofduty wrote: "I don't think people buy hybrids because they fear global warming anyway. It's to save money on gas, and this guy says that no money should be spent developing such cars."
Okay, make that bologna with mustard on rye bread. Current hybrids are very expensive up front. Then you have to charge them, requiring the money to pay a higher electric bill or for those who are environmental cheerleaders, enough money to afford a very large solar panel system.

The cost of owning a hybrid car right now is more expensive over years than the cost of owning a gasoline powered car at today's gas prices.


Even if you take the global warming argument out, I think everyone would agree that big cities with alternative fuel cars would be healthier on our lungs."
Wrong again, and I'm not going to add cheese to the bologna on rye with mustard, but I'll consider tomato and lettuce.

Currently, alternative fuel cars over the long run add more pollution to the air which makes them less healthy than gasoline powered cars because of the increased supply of electricity required to run the hybrids.

17 posted on 01/10/2007 5:25:51 AM PST by bd476
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To: Proverbs 3-5

There are always early adopters who buy into technology before it is mature and/or economically the right decision. I hope people are buying hybrids more to further the technology than anything. After all, the extra money/manufacturing for a hybrid represents just as much or more petroleum use as a regular car when you amortize it across the life of the vehicle.

The people I've talked to who bought hybrids tend to compare them to higher end gas vehicles like camrys, even though a more accurate comparison would be corollas, or maybe accords.

I think they are going to accomplish nothing to reduce our foreign oil dependence, which we desperately need to do. The only solutions I see to the problem are alchohol fuels, fusion, or a pigovian tax on oil.


18 posted on 01/10/2007 5:35:51 AM PST by amchugh
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Mencken, a frequent visitor at Baltimore's Belvedere Hotel pub, is right on the point.


19 posted on 01/10/2007 5:36:09 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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