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New D.C. Archbishop "Wuerl" Washes Hands Over Nancy Pelosi Political Exploitation of Catholic Mass
Life Site News ^ | 01.08.06 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 01/08/2007 6:45:19 PM PST by Coleus

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To: colorado tanker
Spin? Abortion has never been considered the crime of murder. Many takings of human life are not considered murder by the law, and never have been.

I said taking of an innocent life (which an unborn baby surely is)and it most certainly is murder according to the Catholic Church, which Gov. Ritter professes belong to, which is the point, which is what this thread is all about. Gov. Ritter can say anything he wants, if he does nothing, or "has no agenda" to correct this legally permitted abomination to God with the power and influence he has he is not pro life.

This is not at all comparable to the Pelosi situation.

It's like the former Gov. Cuomo (NY) situation, which was explained in the link.

261 posted on 01/10/2007 3:24:04 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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Abortion was a separate crime before Roe, generally not directed at or not enforced against the mother, but against the practitioner. It had its own, far lesser, punishment than murder. I'm not aware of any state that classified abortion as murder.

The taking of an innocent life is not the definition of murder. There are many lesser offenses for the taking of innocent life, with lesser punishments, from second degree murder to manslaughter, to negligent homicide. There are also takings of innocent life that are not punished at all, accidental death or a justified killing.

You are demanding that Ritter perform a futile act, like King Canute. So long as Roe is on the books there is nothing a Governor can do to stop abortion. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at all the "teach 'em a lesson" conservatives who sat on their hands and helped flip the Senate to the Democrats, preventing the confirmation of a fifth pro-life Justice.

262 posted on 01/10/2007 3:59:36 PM PST by colorado tanker
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You're talking "legal" as in state/federal law. I'm talking God's law. Many laws in this country are gravely immoral and an abomination to God. I expect a politician who proclaims he is Catholic publicly, to be a good Catholic publicly, so does the Church, so does God.


263 posted on 01/10/2007 4:38:07 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Coleus

The U.S. Catholic Church has no balls when it comes to confronting RC politicians who are pro-abortion. I left a long time ago and have never looked back.


264 posted on 01/10/2007 4:41:30 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Coleus

Is is not okay for the Ordinary to "stay out of it" when Catholic institutions under the direction of a Catholic religious order within his jurisdiction misbehaves and causes scandanl, or otherwise ignores the teachings of the bishops and the Church Magisterium. This response by the Archdiocese bodes ill for any sort of courageous behavior on the part of either Archbishop Wuerl or Cardinal Keeler in the future.
All of their personal public statements on the need to safeguard the preborn and the institution of marriage are but empty words without courage in action.


265 posted on 01/11/2007 10:27:03 AM PST by holy innocents (Lack of courage and moral conviction)
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I agree, it's incumbent for the local ordinary and mandated through canon law for the bishop to intervene

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1764462/posts?page=221#221
266 posted on 01/11/2007 11:01:39 AM PST by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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