108 inch LCD flat-panel TV introduced

Yahoo! News ^ | 1-8-07 | Franklin Paul and Philipp Gollner

[GoldCountryRedneck]

I'm in the pre-purchase 'research' phase of trying to decide between HD LCD or Plasma. Reliabilty, HD specs, viewing angles, and future compatibility on my matrix.

In about a 50-inch size, I've ruled out projectors. The fit will be close and projectors just seem dimmer.....

Ya'll seem to know something 'bout this, any thoughts???

Thanks in advance

[D-Chivas]

I'm going to wait a year or two until they're under $4000 and available at WalMart.

[sticker]

Optimum viewing distance for video is 2-6 times the screen width

[HEY4QDEMS]

108 inches..... guess I'm gonna have to either add on, or take down a wall.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

My personal preference is that I would stay away from LCD, because over time, the LCDs degrade.
I have not had to much experience with plasma, but, if I were to bet the bank on it, I wait, and sit tight and get the new LED DLP TVs because they would virtually last a life time with the LED lighting.
My mom has a entry level ( Cheap ) DLP projector, and the brightness is not a problem.
As long as you have a big enough room to do it in, I would go with the projector.
With the projector and RPTVs though, the bulb and color wheel is the issue, the bulbs only last about 2000 hours and you have to replace them for around $ 250/300 If you were to get a projector, see if the store has a plan that would replace it with a service plan, it's worth it, if they replace ( ONE BULB ) free.
All in all, it's up to you in what you will buy, but,,, I would wait until the price of the LED DLP HDTVs come down ( they are about $ 3000 - 4000 now.
You can pick up a reasonable DLP ( 780p native DMD chip ) projector now for under $ 1000 or pick up a entry level DLP projector around $ 500-600.
I personally don't like LCD ( the LCDs degrade over time ) or plasma.
One time, I had a guy at TWEETER tell me that, a good DLP projector can put to shame plasmas.
But,,,, if you got the money, buy a ( TRUE HD ) projector, not one that can display HD, or is compatible with HD, but, a TRUE HD DLP projector, the cheap entry level projectors do have a good picture, but, you want the best for the price, the entry level projectors have DMD chips ( not the display capability ) that are 480p ).
http://www.dlp.com/

[Prophet in the wilderness]

BTW ? if you do get a DLP projector, don't run it at a impropriety angle ( over or under the projection angle it was built for ) or you can hasten the wear of the color wheel.
They do have adjustment legs to adjust the angle of the projector, but, they were build for that, DON"T run the projector at a extreme angle.
Place it on a level table, or mount it from the ceiling.
And don't' abuse it, they are sensitive, only let YOU handle the projector, and not anyone under the sun mess with it.
If you do get a projector and have to clean the filter, Don't touch the light bulb, even if it's cooled down, the oil from your hands will cause it to burn out prematurely.

[GoldCountryRedneck]

... I would stay away from LCD, because over time, the LCDs degrade... sit tight and get the new LED DLP TVs because they would virtually last a life time...

Thanks. I've since read about the LCD degradation issues and am leaning toward taking the "wait and see about LED" option.

I just hope it appears sooner than later.

Thanks for the DLP link as well.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Correct me if I am wrong, but, I think Samsung has already got the LED HD TVs on sale, but ? they cost a pretty penny.. about $ 4000.
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/samsungs-led-powered-dlp-tvs.


Nuvison is another one who has the new LED HD TVs for sale.
http://www.nuvision.com/ledlp/.

All I can say is do your homework and shop around, trust me , patients pays off, and not going out and buy on impulse just because some sale man says " you need this one ".
I believe you will find just what you are looking for.
There are a few audio/video web sights were you can get good opinions from others about TVs and video equipment.
If your looking for a DLP Projector here is a good web sight ( http://www.projectorcentral.com/ )

Here is there blogging sight ( http://www.bigscreenforums.com/ ).

Here is another one ( http://www.avsforum.com/ )

[Prophet in the wilderness]

If you do get a HDTV or HD Projector, make sure it has a DVI digital input.
Component video input is ok ( it has 3 plugs, one red, one green, and one blue.
( Component still can do HD , and you will still get a good picture,, but,, not digital HiDef ) some projectors and TVs don't have a DVI input.
And there are DVI inputs that are analog, make sure yours is all digital.
I have ran component video HD, and it looks ok, but, some signals you might not get if you don't have a digital DVI cable.
I know,,,, I know,, it sounds so confusing, and I would try my best if I were you to find a friend or family member who know their stuff about this before you buy.

[UpAllNight]

--Pioneer Corp. (6773.T) said it expects to introduce an advanced plasma high-definition TV this summer with richer colors, deeper shades of black and better contrast than predecessors.--

Phillips announced a 63" 1080p plasma for $3500 retail. Visio announced a 60" plasma for $3000 retail.

[UpAllNight]

You must not watch TV in a daylit room.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

" In about a 50-inch size, I've ruled out projectors. The fit will be close and projectors just seem dimmer. "

You can still get a 50 " picture with a DLP projector, MAYBE ?
that is ? if the specs are made for it on a certain brand you buy.
Some projectors can and can not trow it's view that close, and some can....
It all depends on the projector.
I was able to get a small 50 " or less with my moms projector.
( grant it, I had it close to the wall ) but, it still can be done.
In that kind a application, you might want to mount the projector on the ceiling, because, if you want only a 50 " screen, the projector will be close to the wall, and if you put it on a table, it might be in the way of things.
However, if you only want 50 " screen or less, maybe your best bet is a TV.
I like the projectors because you can use up the whole wall ( the movie theater effect ).
To be honest, 50 " 72 " is just not big enough for me, I want BIG SCREEN.
The problem with TVs that are BIGGER screen is ? the bulk factor.
The projector gives you this without the big box against the wall.
On my moms projector, if you had a 32 foot wide wall ? you can have a image 32 feet... imagine that ? the envy of your neighborhood.
About the " projectors just seem dimmer " issue, well, some do, and some don't.
Most of your low entry level ( HOME THEATOR models ) do have a low lumens ... and you can get some that are higher lumens.
The one my mom has is fine when it comes to brightness, but, it's a entry level ( Business model ) something YOU DON"T want to get a business model.
Once again, I had a sales man once tell me at TWEETER that some DLP projectors put plasmas to shame... and I kinda agree with him.
You also have to remember, some of the people at Best Buy or Circuit City just grab a projector, and hook it up on the showroom floor and " THERE, ready to go " but, in some cases, that it true, and some, it is not, some Projectors don't need calibration out of the box, but, some do.
One thing I don't like about LCDs and Plasma is it has some kind of content of ( Organic properties ) in it, that is why in the LCDs cases, the organic properties is what it causes it to degrade over time... I like any electronics made with " SOLID STATE " components.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Yes.... on a TV, but, yes, I do know with some projectors , the light from other sources is a problem.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I just wish, that they can come up with a product that can be viewed during the daylight, and without the problems with all the technologies of the image creation for viewing on a screen.
Lcds and RPTVs have a viewing angle problem, Plasmas have their own set of problems, and yes, DLP ( old generation DLPs ) have their own set of problems.
But, yes, I know what you mean, on any kind of projector, unless it has a very high brightness, you need to view it in a darkened room.
But, I only view regular TV shows and news on the old TV ( not even a HD TV ).
I only view the Projector for special shows, Football playoffs, and good movies.

[UpAllNight]

--I just wish, that they can come up with a product that can be viewed during the daylight, and without the problems with all the technologies of the image creation for viewing on a screen.
Lcds and RPTVs have a viewing angle problem, --

New LCD's are advertising 170 degree viewing angles. Spent the holidays in front of a Sharp Acquos and it does.

Also, the Sharp Acquos is viewable in daylight, although any TV has problems with direct sunlight on it. Even then, I could still 'see' the picture!

[UpAllNight]

Sharp Aquos advertised viewing angle is 176 degrees, both vertically and horizontally.

[GoldCountryRedneck]

.... if you had a 32 foot wide wall ? you can have a image 32 feet... imagine that ? the envy of your neighborhood.

My neighbors would be able to watch as well as I'd have to watch it from across the street!!!

This is going into an 18 X 27 room....

You've been most helpful; not gonna really move on this immediately and I'll cruise the links you provided.

Thanks again!

[Prophet in the wilderness]

The problem with LCDs ( they have improved on it ) is that they degrade over time.
But, yes, any kind of screen will not be viewable in sunlight or direct sunlight.
But, the Projectors I was mentioning about should be view in a darkened room, although ? they do have some were you can view in a average lite room.
But, most of the time, I use it for good programs or movies. I have had used for for games, really neat to have the game objects the same size as you.
But, I use a plain old TV to watch the news or plain old TV programs.

[palmer]

OTOH, think of what it'll do for the sub-prime mortgage business, when people who can't afford these put them on the list of toys they'll buy with their re-fis, right behind the new Escalade and the trip to Fiji.

Even worse, they'll lease one for $300/month for 36 months.

[RockinRight]

Damn.

Should I buy one of these, or a house? 'Cuz that's probably about how much it costs!