Posted on 01/07/2007 11:46:24 AM PST by wagglebee
"OK, this is to all the boneheads who are going to push for a Tancredo or Hunter or anything else presidency: "
Most other elections you'd be right. But the four top guys are deeply flawed this time around, and the last time we ran a campaign picked by the country clubbers like yourself was with Bob Dole. Come to think of it, the 2006 mid terms were run by you guys too. Rules are meant to be broken.
I freely admit that infidelity in a marriage is one of the few, absolute litmus tests I apply to discard political candidates running for high office. As you have expressed, I also believe it is a reliable indicator of overall strength of character.
I stopped listening to Bill Clinton on the campaign trail in 1992 after he appeared in the CBS 60 Minutes interview with Hillary and basically admitted to extramarital affairs without coming out and saying the words.
Drama from Rudy's personal life isn't going to hurt him.
What can sink him, if Rudy isn't aggressive, is this. People like Rahm Emmanuel and Chris Lahane will probably try to take Giuliani's greatest advantage, 911, and turn it against him. People will support a scoundrel these days, but they are skeptical of heros.
If Giuliani is aggressive and goes out with a kick-ass attitude, that won't be a problem. If he looks like an incompetent, flatfooted politician like Bill Frist during the primary fight, well, he'll lose-- it would sound like Kerry droning on about how he served in Vietnam. Hopefully the Giuliani from the national convention shows up, and not the Giuliani who lost a 140-page document last week.
Trial by fire during the primary season is the only way to know. And unlike FR, most Republicans in 3D space want someone who can win.
"It's simple. MSM loves Rudy because they know it's the best they can hope for. Imagine a race between Rudy and Hillary or Obama. There's no way liberals can lose ... or conservatives can win."
Ain't that the truth.
Darwin at work.
Reagan was an FDR Democrat, a bigtime new dealer.
OK, I am laughing really loud at your bumper sticker!
If Rudy gets the nomination, the party will splinter. A lot of people will leave if a pro-gay, anti-gun, and anti-life lib is carrying the Republican banner. And many of them will be very hard to woo back.
Are you saying Newt was once a woman? ;)
You have GOT to be kidding. There is no man else that I would have wanted at the helm of 9/11!!!
I am glad that my vote renders yours impotent!!!
So what. Reagan even called himself a liberal Democrat in the 1930`s. With the outbreak of WWII, that began to change. By 1952, Reagan voted for Eisenehower and the rest is history.
OTOH, Rudy Giuliani was born a liberal, and will die a liberal. He can call himself a Republican. As with most conservatives, he won't ever get my vote. Not now, not ever!
Possibly, but pictures of Rudy strutting around as a drag queen, e.g., the cover of National Review a few months ago, most certainly will.
As evidenced by the growth of social welfare programs while he was governor.
Excellent points, TD. Giuliani is an imposition on the body politic in an effort to dramatically change the values system upon which our republic was built.
Rudy is the linchpin in The Plan to takeover the Repub party and ditch all us pesty social conservatives. Now The Plan to dislodge the conservative GOP power base ignorantly depends on the false assumption that conservatives are going to roll over and play dead. Fat chance. Repubs cannot---and will not---win without social conservatives.
Here's The Plan straight from the horse's mouth, conhead guru Irving Kristol (Fox pundit Billy Kristol's father, who are avid Rudy backers): "The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be.....to convert the Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy."
Oh yeah, that idea worked really well elsewhere (/sarc). Luckily, professional help for that dictator fixation of his is available.
Country clubber?
If only.
Second cousins only share about 6% of the same genetics. I don't think that is great, but it's not really like first cousins, who would share over 10%.
It is the soldier who takes orders.
And when he gives orders, he receives salutes, not opposition.
It isn't a matter of what he risks. And after Kerry, Webb, Murtha, etc. I have no patience for people who use military service as a shield from criticism or as some sort of indicator of every variety of intellectual prowess.
Does that apply to Duncan Hunter's military service?
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