Posted on 01/04/2007 5:51:39 PM PST by Coleus
I was responding to your posts that we have the same DNA at conception that we have at the age of 70.
Never read about Chimera Twins?
--So what difference does that make in the killing of a human being? Why so eager to define it as *non-human*?--
Please stay on topic.
Spoken like a true Luddite. If a human cell is not "human", what is it?
My personal belief is that life begins at the moment the soul is present in the physical body.
I don't know when that is (biblical reference, anyone?) so I'll err on the side of life and say at conception.
'Err' is not the quite right term. It is the only position to take since noone has ever proven when the spirit takes up residence with the soul of life. Siding with life is never error since to not do so ends any possibility for correcting and error. I'm led strongly by scriptural teaching to believe the spirit is present as soon as organism life is evidenced. But I haven't a scientific proof of same ... yet.
--Spoken like a true Luddite.--
Please look up the definition of "luddite".
Perhaps we should err on the side of life and protect all sperm and egg cells. After all, no one has erver proven when the spirit takes up residence in the soul of life. The spirit may be in the sperm or the egg or both!
I stand corrected. You're right.
But I haven't a scientific proof of same ... yet.
I don't know that we'll ever have proof, and that's okay with me. That's why we have faith. :-)
When does the soul leave the body?
Please look up the definition of human. Now once again, if a human cell is not human, what is it?
I don't know that either.
--Since you have shown yourself incapable of differentiating organism from organ, in your effort to be argumentative, I shan't be exchanging with you. Post to someone else.--
Oh, so you don't won't to err fully on the side of life? Only to the point where it is 'convenient' for you.
Please stop throwing out your cutsey little one-liners and debate your position like an adult; that's what this forum is about.
--Please look up the definition of human. Now once again, if a human cell is not human, what is it?--
Main Entry: 2human
Function: noun
: a bipedal primate mammal (Homo sapiens) : MAN; broadly : HOMINID
- hu·man·like /-m&n-"lIk/ adjective
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Perhaps you should err on the side of intelligence and take a course in biology? A blastocyst is a diploid organism, sperm and egg cells don't quite meet that criteria. I leave that as an exercise for you to figure out why.
Just remember... It's always "five o'clock somewhere"... ;-P
--Sperm and egg cells are not human beings and no one here has claimed such.
Please stop throwing out your cutsey little one-liners and debate your position like an adult; that's what this forum is about.--
Are you saying that they are not life? They are the very essense of life and carry the spirit of life.
Please answer the questions. You're the one who's changing the topic by introducing chimera twins and all. All you're doing is avoiding answering the questions.
What criteria do YOU use to base the humanity of a person on then and why?
Why so eager to declare the fetus *not human*? What's the purpose and who gets to decide that anyway?
And another variation: IF the fertilized egg ISN'T human, then when does it become human? What criteria do you use and what if some baby born doesn't fit in with your definition? What do and can you do about it then?
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