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Atheists challenge the religious right
Christian Science Monitor ^
| 4 January 2007
| Jane Lampman
Posted on 01/03/2007 6:19:54 PM PST by shrinkermd
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This is a well written, readable review of a current topic. The CSM is a great national newspaper IMHO but its title has always held it back in spite of the fair, balanced and intelligent content.
This article is typical of the writing style which is crystal clear prose with no affectations or egregious hostile shots at anyone.
To: shrinkermd
Hello? It's not those quaint bible-wavers who are sawing off heads on YouTube or blowing up innocent people on Al Jazeera. It's not christians who hold a third of the world in poverty and oppression. It's not christians who enslave women and, who indeed, still practice slavery. It's not christians who...
Well, you get my drift. Do these brave, enlightened atheists have anything to say to people who still actually have a medieval mindset and who might actually hurt something besides their wittle feewings?
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:25:10 PM PST
by
sinanju
(s)
To: shrinkermd
"...Alan Wolfe, a professor of religion ..., who is a secularist..." Huh?
To: oprahstheantichrist
ALan Wolfe, a professor of Chinese History, who is EnglishAlan Wolfe, a professor of Black Studies, who is White
So?
To: Jack Black
How do you study and teach a subject that you believe has no basis?
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:33:38 PM PST
by
domenad
(In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
To: sinanju
Do these brave, enlightened atheists have anything to say to people who still actually have a medieval mindset and who might actually hurt something besides their wittle feewings? Yes. Allah does not exist. Mohammed was not a prophet. There is no heaven or 72 virgins waiting for you.
In short, get over it. Islam is a lie.
To: domenad
How do you study and teach a subject that you believe has no basis?You drink a lot.
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:34:47 PM PST
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
To: shrinkermd
"In bestselling books, on websites, and with a national lobbying effort, atheists and other nontheists are challenging the growing religious influence in government and public life."
Yeah right; now that Roe vs. Wade is overturned and vouchers offer Christians school choice us brain dead Christians can turn and defeat the gay marriage issue.
Right now I wouldn't be surprised if the ACLU would come up with a lawsuit closing all churches (they are after all surrounded by public streets). Of course tattooing numbers on Christian's arms won't be far behind. There's an original idea; last accomplished by Adolph Hitler.
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:35:20 PM PST
by
samm1148
(Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
To: shrinkermd
"For someone to say they can't practice their religion appropriately if all schoolchildren are not required to recite a public prayer is very disturbing." Even more disturbing is people who fabricate quotes from nameless sources. Has anyone ever heard anyone say that, EVER?
To: domenad
Philosophers traditionally study many branches of philosophy which they feel are wrong or disagree with basic tenants of. Among other methods one might use to study religion as a secularist are: historical analysis, (ie: The Catholic Church had it's first scism in 459 A.D. over the issue of the Pope, comparative doctrine; (ie: Christian scientists believe Mary Eddy was the prophet while Seven Day Adventists believe Edith White was teh prophet), textual analysis (ie: the first copy of Jonah is found in the scrolls found in Al'Baka valley in 1933), etc.
To: shrinkermd
They are distressed over polls that show that at least half of Americans are unwilling to vote for an atheist despite the Constitution's requirement that there be no religious test for public office.
Huh, I thought you could vote for anyone you wanted to.
When it comes to the parks and recreation supervisors, I always vote for the one with a nickname like "Dusty" or "Bud".
To: domenad
How do you study and teach a subject that you believe has no basis?
Presumably he is teaching about religion - it's roots, it's various histories, it's current forms around the world, etc. Being non-religious certainly doesn't disqualify him from doing so.
To: shrinkermd
Frankly, atheists writing about religion are tiresome. It's like a blind man writing about painting, or a deaf man writing about music. They haven't the foggiest notion what they're talking about. Who wants to read a long rant by people who don't know what they're talking about?
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:43:18 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: shrinkermd
Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:43:38 PM PST
by
processing please hold
(ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage made in heaven.)
To: domenad
I'm no rocket scientist - but I've shot my share of bottle rockets....
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:44:26 PM PST
by
azhenfud
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: samm1148
"...atheists and other nontheists..." Can someone cite an example of a nontheist who is NOT an atheist?
Great post, BTW.
To: AnotherUnixGeek
"
Being non-religious certainly doesn't disqualify him from doing so."
Exactly - for example, the tone-deaf music instructor... oh well - never mind....
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:46:49 PM PST
by
azhenfud
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: shrinkermd
Two particularly provocative books, in fact, hit the top of Publishers Weekly's religion bestseller list in December. No. 1, "The God Delusion," by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, and No. 2, "Letter to a Christian Nation," by writer Sam Harris, are no-holds-barred, antireligion polemics that call for the eradication of all manifestations of faith.Goodbye Groucho, hello Karl.
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posted on
01/03/2007 6:47:26 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
(Duncan Hunter for President)
To: Quix
Ping! (This should be good).
To: shrinkermd
Was it last month or this that the lead article of WIRED magazine (computer/x gen culture) was extolling these fools. "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles." Roman 1:20-23)
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