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Roberts blasts inadequate pay for judges
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | December 31, 2006 | PETE YOST

Posted on 01/01/2007 7:26:14 AM PST by indcons

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To: freedomfiter2
Do Catholics homeschool much? I'm thinking most of the homeschool programs are geared toward the Protestant. Not sure, obviously.

The tradition of sending kids to Catholic schools jumps more rapidly to mind. Here is the tuition schedule for the Catholic high school in the toniest section of Washington, Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School:

Tuition costs for 2006-2007: $18,250

It's a little less than two-thirds of what many pay for tony non-Catholic DC private schools ($26K).

341 posted on 01/01/2007 12:34:36 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: Alter Kaker

We need to recognize that judicial nominees aren't going to be little George Washington and instead are either going to be well paid, competent professionals, or else ill-paid power-hungry ideologues. Given the choice, I'd prefer the former.


Are you going to say that we won't simply end up with well paid power hungry idealogues?


342 posted on 01/01/2007 12:37:07 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: Non-Sequitur
"Well if they're in it for the money then they can always resign and go elsewhere."

It's a shame that even the better judges don't seem to understand what the concept of "public service" means. It's not a get-rich-quick scheme. Nor should the pay be based on catering to public officials' envy of private sector income. Most federal employees, including judges, are given what is essentially guaranteed well-compensated employment for life and a generous benefits package second to none. But that doesn't stop them from whining endlessly about how they're not making as much as those who subject themselves to the risks and uncertainties of market forces.

343 posted on 01/01/2007 12:45:07 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: indcons

For the life they have to lead and the confirmation process, yep they need more money. Just getting past the left wing pacs is tough enough, but getting past schumer is worth millions. Add to this that they really can't invest or moonlight at anything, but they are expected to be the absolute best in their field, yeah they ought to get paid pretty well. How much is a 2500 square foot house in VA these days?


344 posted on 01/01/2007 12:46:36 PM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: dirtboy
the average plumber knows the solution to clogs is to ream them out, not throw more garbage down the drain - which basically is what judges do with the law. DC needs a good Roto-Rootin'.

You're right; we need crack teams of lawyers, just like our best plumbers!


345 posted on 01/01/2007 12:48:34 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: freedomfiter2
"Or do you believe everyone just pays out of the goodness of their heart?"

It's our system..don't like it change it.

That said, I'm watching every dollar the house takes out of my retirement package and if they vote to rip me off they won't have my support.

Giving a few SC judges a pay raise shouldn't scare anyone when you see the big bucks some of those guys are letting fly out the window.

346 posted on 01/01/2007 12:51:44 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: AmishDude; You Dirty Rats

IIRC, there is no official requirement that a Supreme Court justice have a law degree. But in practical terms, there is no way anyone would pass Senate review without one.


347 posted on 01/01/2007 12:53:17 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: EternalVigilance

I would just like to say that entertaining is a Judge which complains about compensation in a public service office. maybe he should go to the table and remind everyone that an amendment to the constitution states that no lawyer may hold any public office. Then lets see how many of these debutants have jobs in the morning. Money for being in office illeagally, Sounds good to me. We can just take all the pimps that are in prison for tax evasion to replace them.


348 posted on 01/01/2007 1:00:15 PM PST by new2NV
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To: new2NV
Do you remember in history of the birth of our great nation we revolted against many of the governments which now have built a stronghold within what was the PEOPLE'S. it was established in the premise that wealth had nothing to do with social standing.

I must respectfully disagree. Voting was limited to male landowners. Women could not own property in many states nor even claim custody of their children if their husband left them. And of course, slaves had no legal rights. Together, women, slaves and non-landowners made up the majority of the population.

349 posted on 01/01/2007 1:01:04 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: Albion Wilde

Sorry to say that the senate or house are public office and would most are lawyers to be regarded as non qualified constitutionally to hold that office. Abraham Lincoln Amendment (11?) original "No Lawyer will be allowed to hold any public office" This whole argument is unqualified because the person (s) who are wanting more aren't supposed to be there to begin with, why in over 100 years hasn't this been the slightest issue. Thus, all problems begin with defiance of our constitutional rights given to the citizens of the United States, to ensure the integrity of the checks and balances


350 posted on 01/01/2007 1:03:39 PM PST by new2NV
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To: new2NV
"I mean invest in something! How about us savings bonds!! Thank you and goodnight."

Have you seen the returns lately? They barely pay for a parking space at Yale. lol. Are you giving me the 3rd degree? hehehe.

351 posted on 01/01/2007 1:04:24 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: indcons
Federal district court judges are paid $165,200 annually; appeals court judges make $175,100; associate justices of the Supreme Court earn $203,000; the chief justice gets $212,100.

I don't get it. That's a lot of money for a salary -- I don't even make close to that, somehow I get by and do pretty well.

352 posted on 01/01/2007 1:09:29 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Given the elitism evident on this thread

We're talking about the Federal judiciary and comments by the Chief Justice. If you think that such positions are not "elite" then you must also think a plumber could do brain surgery.
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"elitism" is almost always used to denote a superior state of mind and entitlement: e.g. elitist vs pluralist.

Your if/then theory re the plumber and brain surgery seems hare-brained to me.


353 posted on 01/01/2007 1:10:12 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Indy Pendance

They don't even have to maintain two homes, the way Congressmen do. WHat are tehy complaining about?


354 posted on 01/01/2007 1:10:18 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: new2NV
Thus, all problems begin with defiance of our constitutional rights given to the citizens of the United States, to ensure the integrity of the checks and balances

I agree with that. Welcome to FR, by the way.

355 posted on 01/01/2007 1:10:26 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: EternalVigilance
"...university presidents average around $500,000." I don't argue with your number, but THAT is nuts.

Couldn't agree more. Communists always seem to believe there should be a handful who are "first among equals."

356 posted on 01/01/2007 1:12:10 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: misterrob
Do you live in DC or surrounding areas? If you did then you would know that $200K is not a significant amount of money.

I do -- and I'll tell you what, as an annual salary, $165,000 is plenty to live on in DC. If they were like Congressmen and had to maintain two residences, it might be a different story. And seriously, most of the lower paid ones -- the district judges -- are living in parts of the country that are far less expensive than DC.

357 posted on 01/01/2007 1:12:51 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: The Old Hoosier
"...I don't even make close to that, somehow I get by and do pretty well."

That's cause we are in Indiana silly. The liv'in is fine here. I wouldn't live in DC if someone gave me a half a mil a year.

358 posted on 01/01/2007 1:12:54 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

No, I'm a Hoosier Ex-Pat in DC.


359 posted on 01/01/2007 1:13:50 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: The Old Hoosier

My sympathies.


360 posted on 01/01/2007 1:14:54 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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