Posted on 12/30/2006 9:36:31 AM PST by achilles2000
Please get me more info about this creature along with some photos. This deserves a YouTube mocking. Thanks.
However, I say all that with one caveat. A friend of mine was taking the test next to me (we were on computers) and she said her test contained NO geometry in the least, no multi-step equations, but tons and tons of word problems and some 4 function math. The test administrator told us that the computer produces a different test for each taker and it sounded like I got a harder one and she got an easier one. Luck of the draw I guess.
Praxis II is a test I know nothing about, didn't have to take it.
Yes, nmh, I am a Texas publik skool teechur. You and I have chatted before.
re: my previous post
There probably isn't enough good info here to make a YouTube after all.
I kept 3/21 for my trouble, commission, you know.
I did a 'brain dump' of geometry forty years ago and haven't regretted it for a moment. What a waste of classroom time. Algebra at least had minimal use so I used it.
So NYC becomes the training ground that provides the experience for the larger NJ salaries. I've seen some reports of what teachers in NJ earn--it makes ours here in VA pale! In my county, a teacher with Masters + 30 will earn close to 80K after 30 years of service. I've been told that teachers in NJ top that level after about 1/2 the time. Of course I teach in a rural county, in a safe school, so maybe the trade off is worth it.
Wait until we get to partial fraction decomposition. LOL.
The Praxis is given in what state(s)?
Did you score higher than your friend [since yours was harder]? The reason that I ask is this: The computerized GRE bases what questions you will be asked on the rest of the test on how well you answer the first 10 questions of the test. Get those right, and you get more difficult questions [and a higher score, I believe].
True, but this is something so basic any teacher should be able to figure it out, regardless of how long it's been since they've been in a classroom. Ideally, this is something any high school student should be able to answer.
Even then - teachers are not Degreed on all subjects. You have Math, English, History, etc.
Yes, but they should have basic knowlege over all of the major subjects. I wouldn't necessarily expect every teacher to know how to work with i for example, but they should all be able to handle basic fractions.
Then you have the specific Education 'Level' the teacher is Degreed for. Like Elementary K-3, 4-8 or Secondary (High School).
Also true, but adding fractions is something that is taught at one of the lower levels. One would expect teachers of all levels to know something that basic.
...However, ask her about "1066" or "The Battle of Hastings" and you get a blank stare. I know more about History that she does. But that doesn't mean I'm smarter and would be a better teacher, or that she's a bad teacher.
Of course. But suppose you asked your friend who FDR was, or to name the civilization that ruled the Western world in the time of Christ. I'd say that's about on par with asking an English teacher, or a teacher's union president, to add two small fractions. If your friend couldn't answer those questions, would you start to have some doubts about her?
"Yes, nmh, I am a Texas publik skool teechur. You and I have chatted before."
Oh, yes. I remember you ... well atleast you upper case your "I" rather than "i". You're coming along ... .
What a wonderful example you set for the kiddies!
NJ or CT or Westchester or Long Island.
NYC has always provided that training function in private industry as well. FYI: the guy who wrote Angela's Ashes was a NYC teacher for 30 years. Steve Bescemi (sp?) was a fireman and I know a couple of cops who retired and took up acting. They appear regularly in Law & Order and CSI.
The other thing to remember is that more than half of the new teachers leave -- quit the profession -- after the first year.
The weirdest thing NYC ever tried is "teaching fellows." They're recruiting people from private businesses into teaching. I doubt it will work, but it's worth a try.
p.s. they just opened a Hospitality High School, to train kids for careers in hotels and restaurants.
Would 'commie traitor' be a correct answer?
I'm sorry--your braying isn't comprehensible.
I know what you are talking about with the computer adaptive tests. That is just like the GRE. But the test taker said that the 50 questions or so were random and not based on how you did.
Our scores were similar; I missed 1 question and she missed 3. I want to say we needed a 221 to pass and I had a 235 and she had a 232. The scores were calculated and displayed in about 2 minutes after finishing.
Since she is my best friend, of course I gave her a hard time about missing more easy questions that I did hard ones. That's what friends are for. She is the same one I did the GRE with. Before we went in, I reminded her that UVA did NOT care about our analytical score, it wasn't counted, so skip that section and get to the quantitative. I did A B C D and got out in 3 minutes, she thought the questions were fun and worked them. Go figure, after 6 hours of testing, she gets to the end of the quantitative with a fried brain and is only half reading the questions that really count.
FWIW, doing ABCD on the analytical section of the GRE will earn you a 420. About the IQ of a animated turnip.
Yes, but is your job a leadership position? Does it require regular public speaking, as a would be expected from the president of a major union?
Silly bunny! That's not how it works. If it were, then why would 90%+ of union contributions go to RATs when the membership is nowhere near 90% RAT?
Where did you get the idea that a union was democracy in action? Have you ever tried to go against a BA or Sec/Treas of a local?
Hospitality High School? Well, I guess whatever floats your boat. Certainly a fun career. But it is interesting that the system is looking at career tracks that keep kids in school and offer an alternative.
I have friends in that particular union. They beat back the officials all the time.
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