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His Way or The Highway (Rick Perry's approach to road building)
Houston Freeways ^ | December 2006 | Paul Burka (Texas Monthly)

Posted on 12/29/2006 4:21:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 12/29/2006 4:21:23 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; AprilfromTexas; B4Ranch; B-Chan; ..

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 12/29/2006 4:23:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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3 posted on 12/29/2006 4:26:05 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Y'all made yer choice!
4 posted on 12/29/2006 4:29:31 PM PST by Vaquero (Moderate Islam is Radical Islams Trojan horse in the West)
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5 posted on 12/29/2006 4:32:35 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Professional Engineer

ping


6 posted on 12/29/2006 4:32:49 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Vaquero

I voted for him.


7 posted on 12/29/2006 4:33:00 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Vaquero

Yeah, and Kinky wasn't a viable alternative.


8 posted on 12/29/2006 5:04:43 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

maybe instead of a road he should build a pyramid.


9 posted on 12/29/2006 5:12:15 PM PST by GSlob
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[a mammoth stage agency] has lost sight of its duty to serve the public and instead serves its own ends.

Yes, and it's not just state agencies; this is a problem bedeviling Texas at every level of government, from school districts to municipalities to counties to the state. And, methinks, not just in Texas, but throughout the USA.
10 posted on 12/29/2006 5:17:16 PM PST by Nervous Tick (I'm conservative, but I held my nose and voted Republican anyway.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
such as the partnership between Cintra, a Spanish company, and Zachry

Funny how they never say who owns these companies. Can you say middle east oil as in someone like Ben's family.

11 posted on 12/29/2006 5:26:32 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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".......toll roads in East Texas, if kept there, might sound a lot better to West Texans than a $1.40-a-gallon tax increase on gasoline

Public Support Building for Toll Roads

US may finally warm up to tollroad sales in 2007

12 posted on 12/29/2006 5:37:27 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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Instead of complaining, please offer some solutions. Something must be done about I35, there must be some relief.

In any private business transaction, the initial offer generally will ask for more than what will ultimately be granted. So, in this case, sounds like some strike throughs for the non-compete clauses is in order.
13 posted on 12/29/2006 5:49:49 PM PST by RushingWater
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Just because the author of this article says the non-compete clause is egregious doesn't mean it is.

There was info on the non-compete clause in the document release a few months ago. The Austin American Statesman assessed the non-compete clause a being very similar to the non-compete clause for Hwy 130, which seemed reasonable to me.

The operator gets a 10 mile buffer zone. If TxDot builds something detrimental, it has to pay the operator. TxDot can also build something that benefits the operator and use it as an offset.

14 posted on 12/29/2006 6:06:06 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is theft at the highest levels of state government. I-35 was initially built with public funds and, over its lifetime, it has been bought and paid for several times over. It can no more be given away to someone than it can be abandoned, the road belongs to we, the people!! The gas taxes we pay for every gallon we pump are supposed to go toward building, maintaining and updating these roads.

If Texas wants to build toll roads, there isn't anything in the world to keep them from doing it. However, there is a huge trick being played on us before our eyes. For Texas to commission toll roads at the expense of the interstates AND to keep the gas taxes, is theft and fraud. Texas is trying to have its cake and eat it, too.

Keeping the gas taxes and NOT applying them for the purpose they were intended amounts to a hidden tax increase. To charge the gas tax and fail to maintain the public roads AND to charge tolls on roads that the public's input is being ignored to build is theft, fraud and malfeasance.

Folks, we're being had - and so are our children and grandchildren.


15 posted on 12/29/2006 6:26:07 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Vaquero
Once again my vote for Kinky is vindicated.
16 posted on 12/29/2006 6:26:20 PM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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How come it takes a buck forty per gallon tax increase for Texans to build roads, but very much less in rest of the country?

Texans not very bright or something?

If they're buying that dollar forty line, then I've got my answer.

17 posted on 12/29/2006 7:34:38 PM PST by narby
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Texas hasn't borrowed. How many times has your state raised the debt limit on highway borrowing? Three?


18 posted on 12/29/2006 7:41:32 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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How many times has your state raised the debt limit on highway borrowing?

I have no idea, and I could care less. Arizona was listed last week as the fastest growing state in the country, no doubt accomplished on the back of miles and miles of brand new free roads. The growth will pay for whatever debt increase there was, which was the point of doing it in the first place. How do you think companies grow? They borrow money, duh. Governments can and should do the same thing and for the same reason.

Growth brings money, and borrowing brings growth which pays off the debts. If Texans are too stupid to know that, then I'm glad I left there in 84.

Any Texan that buys the line that it would take a buck forty per gallon tax increase to fund roads is a few cards short of a full deck. And the fact you're trying to sell that line demonstrates other things.

19 posted on 12/29/2006 7:52:13 PM PST by narby
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How many times has your state raised the debt limit on highway borrowing?

Arizona has almost a Billion (with a 'B') dollars surplus in the state treasury. Whether we've borrowed for highways I don't know. But if we have, good. We're driving on the roads now, growing the state, and we have lots and lots of money.

Texas (the French Toll Road State) doesn't.

What's wrong with Texas?

20 posted on 12/29/2006 7:58:42 PM PST by narby
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