Posted on 12/28/2006 5:14:01 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement
Not sure what you are trying to prove with that argument, because, of course we all know we have poor people in the USA....
Are you advocating bringing in more, poor/uneducated people? If so, I'm very curious what you stand to gain from such a thing? This makes no sense at all.
Do you realize how elitist and borderline racist that sounds?
Through out history and today, the US has utilized the unskilled and uneducated immigrant. It benefits the native born and the immigrant.
The benefits to the native born are obvious. The immigrant, tho he is at the bottom, has better standard of living. He also knows that class mobility in the US gives him, his children, and grandchildren a realistic opportunity at becoming middleclass and upperclass.
OTOH, you and your group advocate policies that would create a permanent underclass. That is racist and elitist.
First you say you applaud legal immigrants, but you are a member of a group that advocates curtailing legal immigration.
Then you say you want more/higher educated immigrants, yet you are a member of a group that is blocking that.
As for what I am advocating, I say that the private and public sectors can identify what the nations labor needs are for all levels of education and skills and a reformed immigration policy can satisfy those needs.
First let me get this straight. I am not a "member" of any group. What I am is against illegal immigration and amnesty for people who have come into this country illegally.
I am for immigration in a balanced manner, meaning not with the majority of immigrants coming all from one country as we currently are experienceing.
Last, I am in favor of immigrants who are educated and can bring something benificial other than their backs to our society.
Now, something you said yesterday which has been nagging me... you indicated you want a permanent underclass in this country and we need illegal immigrants in order to have this lower class.... that has been bugging me... use New Orleans as an example.. the already underclass of blacks there didn't want to do the work of rebuilding so illegal immigrants were brought in to do the work while the underclass of NOLA continue to sit home and complain and collect welfare checks..
The illegals are not educated, they are (at this point) hard working, so they get the work and the $$$.... the prior underclass remains an underclass and now we've added a second layer, who will forever change the face of NOLA. In ten years that city will likely not be the city it has been for several hundred years and will lose much of the romanticism that attracted visitors to that city and the second and third generation of those illegals will be what we see in modern day Los Angeles, not assimilated into the American language or way or life and all the problems that brings with it....
So, I repeat, we need educated immgrants and we need to make welfare recepients get off their rears and work for a check.
What I said in #103 applies to you as well. The policies that you advocate will create a permanent underclass.
By importing our underclass, we insure that our native born have better opportunities.
Particularly this comment:
If we imported only highly educated/skilled workers, the native born would have to clean the toilets.
Su no comprehende ?
It's pretty clear what you were saying. You think we need to import more toilet cleaners to put the current toilet cleaners out of work.
If we had an adequate immigration policy, there would be no illegals. Conversely, without an adequate immigration policy, there is no way to keep the illegals out.
You're trying to parse your statements now.. and what (in your mind) is "adequate." We have over 300 million citizens, that seems pretty adequate, but there is a lot of people from countries, other than Mexico who have been waiting for a very long time for admittance into the USA.
You are right, immigration reform needs to eliminate the bureaucratic mess so that waits are not as long.
As a generality, we can say that to keep economic output up, the US is going to need a population growth of about 1%.
The domestic birthrate will not yield that. Immigration rates will remain relatively high.
That's fine, as long as three quarters of that isn't all from one country -- aka Mexico.
We have made a loop. Do you want to start over?
Currently there is outstanding warrants for 80,000 Mexican Nationals who were here illegally and commited crimes, were let out on bail and ICE didn't deport and have yet to show up for court hearings.
Maybe this “myth” was all engineered by the Bush RNC—along with some of the losses of seats. All for amnesty, all the time.
Wow, nothing like drawing a line from one point.
But we've become used to you doing that.
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