Posted on 12/26/2006 9:39:30 AM PST by jdm
Satan's Daughter is playing this brilliantly. Are there still some of you out there who don't think she can win?
I want to get a comment from Burns Strider but can't find a number anywhere. I want to challenge him on Hillary's bearing false witness against Peter Paul. Your help will be appreciated.
Can a religious scholar on this thread cite the Commandments in which Hillary believes and practices?
BARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps you can explain your comment about the GOP "ridding" itself of the "Christian-socialist" party. At initial glance, it appears you're lumping Christians and socialists into the same group. If I understood you correctly, you're pretty ignorant. I am a born-again Christian and most decidedly NOT a socialist--I spent twenty years on active duty in the US Air Force.
What exactly do you mean by suggesting that the GOP needs to "return to being friendly to civil liberties"? When have the Republicans NOT been friendly to civil liberties? What civil liberties are you referring to?
As for the GOP "ridding" itself of Christians (its core support group, whether you like it/agree with it or not), all they have to do is continue their present heading. Christians left the GOP in droves in 06 and unless the GOP returns to its roots, the same thing will happen in 08. If that's the way it turns out, the GOP leadership will have nobody to blame but themselves.
Get this: Christians support candidates whose policies line up with Christian beliefs. That would not describe any major Democrat that I know of, nor would it describe Rudy Giuliani or John McCain. It's not enough for a person to have done admirable things in the past. If candidates want Christian support, they must advocate godly policies. If they don't, Christians will stay home and the GOP will take another beating in 08.
You can't make this stuff up folks!
All the Republicans have to do to win is by nominating Rudy Giuliani or John McCain.
There...fixed it.
You totally misunderstood my post so you went off on a rant that was totally meaningless. Who would ever think that "christian" and "socialist" mean the same thing? What sort of egg nog have you been drinking?
The GOP has been running as the de-facto "Christian-Socialist" party for the last 10 years and especially the last 6. This means the main issues that the GOP focuses on are moral issues and social engineering through the redistribution of wealth.
The democrats, on the other hand, have been running as the secular-communist party for a pretty long time.
BTW, the GOP has been very hostile to civil liberties. The 4th amendment is a good example. The 2nd amendment is pretty much meaningless now as well due to the social conservatives' love affair of no-knock search warrants.
Well, Jeff, first of all, I don't drink alcohol of any kind.
You're the one who identifies the GOP as the "de-facto "Christian-Socialist" party." By placing that hyphen between "Christian" and "Socialist" you are implying an association between the two groups.
You're the one talking about the GOP running as the Christian-Socialist party. You're the one suggesting that the GOP is focusing on moral issues and social engineering through redistribution of wealth. You're the one suggesting that the GOP has been very hostile to civil liberties, stating that "The 4th Amendment is a good example" [???]. You're the one suggesting that the "The 2nd amendment is pretty much meaningless now as well due to the social conservatives' love affair of no-knock search warrants." You make all these claims without providing a single specific to support your rather wild statements. So, tell me again, who was it that "went off on a rant"?
Why don't you stop trying to hijack a thread that focuses on Hillary Clinton's blatant attempt to pander to Christian conservatives? SHE is the issue at hand. SHE is the enemy. SHE is the one who must be stopped. I think we can at least agree on that much, yes?
" She acknowledges that she still struggles with common evangelical ideas about abortion, homosexuality, and the literal reading of Scripture
Calling yourself an evangelical Christian and being one are obviously two different things."
The left redefined "conservative" to fit their agenda. Now they are doing the same with "evangelical."
You are the one that took the thread off on a tangent by misunderstanding what a hyphen between two words means. By your logic, if I wrote "Jade works for an Asian-American association", you would take that as meaning that all Asians are American. geesh
The reason that Hillary will has a high chance of success is because the GOP has focused almost exclusively on moral and social engineering issues for the last 6 years.
All she really has to do to win is to make herself appear a little more acceptable to some non-hardcore religious voters in Ohio and Florida.
The only way to stop a Hillary presidency is for the GOP to stop concentrating on moral and socialistic issues and focus on fiscal conservativeness, shrinking the government and protecting civil liberties. We do that and we win - we "stay the course" we lose.
Sure, continue to believe that if you want. The reality is that the conservatives will not back either of them, and the Democrats will take the White House and more seats in the House and Senate.
So long as judicial supremacy persists, I cannot understand how any evangelical or conservative Catholic could support Hillary specifically, or Democrats in general. I can understand not voting out of disgust or disappointment, but to actively and directly support those whose agenda includes having a judiciary that will destroy all vestiges of our traditions is just mind-boggling.
And anyone who thinks an unknown stiff like Brownback or Hunter running on God, guns and gays can take on the hillary hate machine needs to step away from the AM radio and put down the bottle.
And anyone who thinks Republicans will vote for gun-grabbing abortionists who want to give amnesty to illegal border invaders is playing with fire.
"If Kerry emerged from that meeting without either acknowledging Jesus as his Lord and Savior or shaking with rage at being called out as a sinner doomed to eternal hellfire unless he repents, than it is obvious that Warren continues his slide into outright apostasy..."
WE HAVE A WINNER!!
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