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ACLU cautions city not to revive illegal-immigrant rental law (Escondido warned it would be costly)
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 12/19/06 | J. Harry Jones

Posted on 12/19/2006 10:42:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: sticker

Nope, it's the UN Charter.


21 posted on 12/19/2006 11:47:12 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: B4Ranch

There's a difference?


22 posted on 12/19/2006 11:52:13 AM PST by sticker
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To: B4Ranch

There's a difference?


23 posted on 12/19/2006 11:52:13 AM PST by sticker
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To: x1stcav

The city set up a legal defense fund at www.escondido.org. The fund took in about 350 bucks.

If we're ever going to counter the pernicious influence of the ACLU, there's going to have to be a non-profit organization set up to reimburse local communities for the costs of fighting them. There's lots of entities that'll file a friend of the court brief, but that doesn't help deal with the real problem, which is the ACLU's ability to run up the meter on anybody that opposes it.

The real key to effectiveness is the formation of a group that pays the bills for those who want to put a stop to this extortionate mis-use of our federal courts. That's an organization I could contribute to.


24 posted on 12/19/2006 12:10:04 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: mugs99

The ordinance contained full due process protections, including a multi-step appeals process.


25 posted on 12/19/2006 12:11:49 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: NormsRevenge
So just pass an ordinance that prohibits occupancy of more than 3 persons per 500 sq. ft. in any residential rental unit.

Further stipulate fines of $1000 per day while the violation continues and establish interest at the state's maximum annual rate to take effect 30 days after the fine is issued. Fine to take effect after notification by US Mail at the last known address of the property owner.

Of course the city files a lien 30 days after the first fine is levied and the landlord can contest while the daily fines continue to build and interest continues to accrue.

This law is not discriminatory based on race, creed, color, religion, or national origin.

As a result, the ACLU has no cause for action.
26 posted on 12/19/2006 12:31:28 PM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights)
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To: NormsRevenge

they are trying to run our lives-i hope sometimes for chaos because they will have brought it on and they WLL pay for it


27 posted on 12/19/2006 12:33:50 PM PST by steamroller
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To: WildBill2275
As a result, the ACLU has no cause for action

Sadly, that doesn't stop them, they claim disparate impact and use that to get in the courthouse door. There's some pretty solid case law that holds that disparate impact is not discriminatory, but you have to get to the appeals stage to get some thoughtful consideration of that issue and by then you're half a million bucks in.

28 posted on 12/19/2006 12:44:45 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: NormsRevenge

They're only worried about "costs" when it affects a portion of their political agenda.

Nothing makes me sicker than democrats complaining about what something "costs".


29 posted on 12/19/2006 12:49:24 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: sticker

Yes, do some research and read all about it.


30 posted on 12/19/2006 1:02:03 PM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How do you spell EXTORTION?


31 posted on 12/19/2006 1:50:10 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: NormsRevenge
warned that should Escondido

Oh.

I see.

ACLU is now handing out warnings?

32 posted on 12/19/2006 5:15:07 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: longtermmemmory

ACLU means AMERICAN Civil Liberties Union. Not ILLEGAL MEXICAN Civil Liberties Union. That would the the IMCLU.


33 posted on 12/19/2006 5:17:00 PM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
The ordinance contained full due process protections, including a multi-step appeals process.

If that is true there is no case.
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34 posted on 12/19/2006 6:50:48 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99

The case actually turned on practicality. The ordinance was complaint-driven, and provided that, upon a complaint being filed, the city would ask the landlord to provide ID for his tenants. The city would then check that ID against the ICE database.

Turned out, a city can only use the database for determining the status of those who are applying for a public benefit.

So... the ACLU had succeeded in convincing the judge to issue a restraining order until a trial on a permanent injunction could occur. The trial was due in March. In his order granting the TRO, the judge made clear that the practicality issue was a significant one. He also raised questions about the way in which the city had adopted the ordinance on procedural grounds. Both of those looked difficult to surmount.

In reality, the constitutional merits of the case was never fully considered. In other words, you're right, no case, but some technical problems. Two hundred grand in, it didn't seem worth fighting a sure loser when there were cleaner approaches available.


35 posted on 12/19/2006 7:04:05 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg
You're right...you have to know when to fold 'em!
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36 posted on 12/19/2006 7:27:40 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Amazing that the ACLU is allowed to continued their tactics of threats and extortion of law abiding citizens while at the same time they rise to the defense of pedophiles and other criminals.


37 posted on 12/20/2006 11:39:44 AM PST by Dante3
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To: mugs99; NormsRevenge
You completely avoided the subject of the article, which was the ACLU threatening the city with exhorbinant legal fees if it passes legislation it doesn't like.

“If they even get close to this topic again, we will look at it with a microscope,” Blair-Loy said yesterday in response to the comments. “If we do have to sue them, it will be a lot more painful experience than it was the first time . . . they may not have such a quick, easy, painless exit from the case.”

In this case (as in many) the ACLU is taking an end run around the democratic process by issuing an extortion type threat against the city, even after the said legislation would have the issues the ACLU objects to removed. It's not the consitutionality of the legislation the ACLU has the problem with, it's the legislation itself. The words of the ACLU attorneys are there for all to see, their intent can not be twisted, spun, or negated in any way. I for one, am happy they said them, for they show that they and their supporters are enemies of the Bill of Rights, not defenders.

I suspect you avoided the issue because you don't want to admit you and the ACLU are wrong, and you find the ACLU sueing taxpayers on behalf of illegal aliens embarassing. Then again, maybe you support the ACLU extorting taxpayers and taking away their rights to a representative government. Most likely a combination of the two.

38 posted on 12/20/2006 4:21:39 PM PST by Hacksaw (I)
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To: Hacksaw
Most likely a combination of the two.
LOL!
Not even close.
This is just another dog and pony show by politicians playing to their audience.
Politicians support illegal immigration by refusing to prosecute those who hire illegals...then they blame the illegals who are brought here by those who hire illegals...

That is the problem that is causing bad law and lawsuits!
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39 posted on 12/21/2006 3:25:13 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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