Posted on 12/18/2006 8:12:55 AM PST by SJackson
how think work if they think about it = how they think the world works if they think about it
I wish I had time right now for this conversation - it's very interesting. I'll just add my tiny .02 for now. You said:
"Creationists, on the other hand, act as if the Bible was designed as a science textbook, which it most emphatically isn't. I don't recall God explaining atomic structure to Moses, for example."
I am a Hindu and a creationist. Religious people of all stripes are generally creationists (if they believe the teachings to which they supposedly adhere). There are undoubtedly Christian creationsists who have their own belief about how God created; the Vedas describe God's creative process in a different way.
I wish people would focus just a little not on what the exact creation teachings of various religions, but the flaws in TOE. The flaws highly interest me. Cicero's comment #27 addresses my POV precisely.
I think the truth interferes with your worldview. Science reveals more and more the lies of evolutionary philosophy. God created science. Without God , there would not be a universe . God gave us order so that we may actually systematically study science. Evolutionists believe in chaos and yet the order of our world defies them.
The theory of evolution does not state that insects evolved into humans. That is just not how it works. It DOES state that all life has a common ancestor in the distant past.
Tell me what is the difference in so called "micro and macro" evolution? There is NONE! If you accept micro-evolution then you have no problem with the basic tenets of the Theory of Evolution.
not ok............you see, from your primitive Wikipedia definition of evolution, it's again made obvious that atheistic evolutionists make up their ow rules and then adjust their own rules to any new discovery that conflicts with their old rules. It's a circle that goes around and around, meaningless.
The mixing of chemical compounds to form a living organism is NOT evolution, it is ABIOGENESIS.
These are the conditions needed for Evolution to work:
A living organism that is able to reproduce.
PERIOD. That's all you need. That is ground zero for Evolution. How that living organism appeared is NOT A CONCERN OF EVOLUTION, it falls in the realm of A-B-I-O-G-E-N-E-S-I-S. Abiogenesis is not a path to "species" or "species-creation".
What do you mean by this?:
"It would also mean non Evolution species creation must happen before any Evolution can happen..."
Do you know the difference between "species creation" and the formation of a chemical compound? It is not the same thing.
Once the first living organism appeared, evolution started. You can't use the word "EVOLUTION" to describe the events that happened before the first living organism appeared.
heh heh. The Catholic Crutch.
Is that anythign like antidisestablishmentarianism?
In college I took a Philosophy of Religion class. The prof told the story of a defender of the idea that the earth is on the back of a giant turtle. The story goes that one day a precocious student asked what the turtle was perched upon. The teacher told him it was on an even larger turtle. The student, of course, kept on pressing. Finally the exasperated teacher said; ”Look, it’s turtles all the way down!”
So do you believe in the Judaeo-Christian account of "God Spoke, and it was" or the Native American account, or early Celtic accounts of Odin and Thor, or the Hindu account?
And if you believe in the Judaeo-Christian account of the creation, do these beliefs come from a 6,000 year old collection of books from various sources around the Middle East and Mediterranean?
And do you believe god gave man logic?
Assertion without evidence.
Science reveals more and more the lies of evolutionary philosophy.
Really. And where's your evidence that this is the case?
God created science.
No. Man created science. Until about three centuries ago there was no "science" as we know it today. It developed slowly as more and more researchers shrugged off the shackles of Medieval thinking.
Without God , there would not be a universe.
Other than your blind faith, do you have any empirical evidence to support this?
God gave us order so that we may actually systematically study science.
Other than your blind faith, do you have any empirical evidence to support this?
Evolutionists believe in chaos and yet the order of our world defies them.
Evolutionists accept the validity of the theory of evolution. You just pulled the above out of your tuckus. Unless, of course, you actually have evidence to back up your claims.
I'll wait while you dig it up...
I love that line, too bad its not apropos.
Perhaps my gentle jibe was a little too close to the bone.
A gentle jibe would've been something along the lines of "oh ye of little faith."
Evidently I do not rate witty opponents.
That's strange, because you don't post here every day.
But let me guess, are they like the intellectual *holier-than-thou* types who disparage everyone who doesn't agree with them about certain aspects of science, and make snide comments about those being janitors to clean the offices of the intellectual elite, or post derogatory comments like *IDiot* and *creatard*? And then back-slap and high-five each other over their witty retorts?
elastolution again.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1754064/posts?page=22#22
Of course, you wouldn't know anyone like that, right?
Of course, you wouldn't know anyone like that, right?
You mean like evolutionists who are computer technicians, or business admistrators, or those who when asked to provide some credentials of scientific training never even bother answering?
And your scientific training is in what field?
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