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Ore. searchers thwarted again by weather ( Day 11 : Mt Hood )
, Associated Press ^ | Dec 17 | JOSEPH B. FRAZIER

Posted on 12/17/2006 7:53:05 AM PST by george76

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To: surfer

HOOD RIVER, Ore. -- None of the three missing climbers on Mount Hood were found in a snow cave near the mountain's peak, authorities said Sunday.

Rescuers who reached the cave found a sleeping bag, ice axes and rope, said Sgt. Gerry Tiffany, spokesman for the Hood River County Sheriff's Office.

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141 posted on 12/17/2006 2:41:01 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: CWOJackson

Wow, what a sad and infuriating story! God bless you for the work you've done.


142 posted on 12/17/2006 2:41:24 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: CWOJackson
I saw the movie...and don't want to see it again EVER.

My husband (spectre) told me that these men knew the dangers they were going into, and like you, there is a point where the risk and safety of the rescuers should be a priority even when it is their job to save others.

sw

143 posted on 12/17/2006 2:41:51 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre
Unfortunately, the unofficial motto in the Coast Guard is, "You have to go out, you don't have to come back." I've never seen anyone not volunteer for a search and rescue (SAR) mission despite the odds.

The same motivations drive those men and women on that mountain right now. We were stationed in Seattle in 1995, when two National Park Rangers died in an attempt to rescue some climbers on Mt. Rainer. The news was all about the climbers, not about the Rangers.

Every hour we keep those people on the mountain and in the air we increase the odds against them.

144 posted on 12/17/2006 2:45:28 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: schu

' ...there are "fresh prints"...'

I wonder how fresh they are ?

After the hurricance force winds...month old prints may be frozen solid on rock outcroppings while Thursday's prints may be gone.


145 posted on 12/17/2006 2:46:12 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: bonfire
Someone said that the snow caves are sort of "soundproof"..They could be sleeping (alright that's a stretch...). But still..

sw

146 posted on 12/17/2006 2:46:14 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Abigail Adams

Thank you.


147 posted on 12/17/2006 2:46:52 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: _Jim

This situation could have been resolved quickly as to GPS location. No, not some expensive and heavy radio : a lightweight T shirt with a transponder wire in the neck. With a simple organic battery it would respond to a precise, directed signal from a plane. This would also be of use to lost hunters, kidnapped or lost children. Why hasn't someone developed such a product and gotten it on the market? It would have saved these guys lives...


148 posted on 12/17/2006 2:47:50 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: schu

" There are some treacherous crevasses high on the south side route, let's hope they are not in those. "

These three apparently are strong experienced climbers, but they apparently have never climbed Mt. Hood and they did not have a guide.

I agree : hopefully they did not...


149 posted on 12/17/2006 2:49:31 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: timer
There ya go!

I was asking my husband about that sort of GPS tracking device...a chip perhaps.

It should be mandatory, IMHO.

sw

150 posted on 12/17/2006 2:50:52 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: george76
I understand the prints led directly from the ice cave. It is unlikely they would be older than a few days given the amount of snow we have had recently. In my experience is takes but a few days for prints to disappear on a mountain.

schu
151 posted on 12/17/2006 2:52:01 PM PST by schu
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To: CWOJackson
Thank you for your service.

spent over 30 years in the Coast Guard.

152 posted on 12/17/2006 2:52:18 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I am hearing reports that it may have been a sleeping pad they found...not a sleeping bag. Seems to be some FOG OF NEWS on this item.


153 posted on 12/17/2006 3:03:55 PM PST by surfer
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To: surfer
the climbers were very well prepared

That may be true, but it isn't consistent with what I have previously read.

154 posted on 12/17/2006 3:11:03 PM PST by PAR35
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To: schu
I just read that the cave was on the south side, about 300' below the summit? If so, that is good news.

schu
155 posted on 12/17/2006 3:11:56 PM PST by schu
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To: schu

No, the cave they found was on the north side. About 300' below the summit.


156 posted on 12/17/2006 3:13:17 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: surfer

There is alot of fog.

Some of it comes from the talking heads... Most do not know basic climbing terms nor concepts.

They constantly confuse basic terms like : hiking and climbing... never mind a discussion on the many different uses of different types of ice and snow axes.


157 posted on 12/17/2006 3:16:14 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: sissyjane
Me too. We need to work on this.

running up and down stairs...from computer to TV.

158 posted on 12/17/2006 3:19:54 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: surfer

I hope that info is the true story, rather than the first version.






159 posted on 12/17/2006 3:22:11 PM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: surfer

I hope it was just the pad.



No Climbers Found in Mount Hood Snow Cave

HOOD RIVER, Ore. (AP) -- A snow cave near the peak of Mount Hood contained a sleeping bag, ice axes and rope, but not the three climbers who have been missing for more than a week, authorities said Sunday.

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160 posted on 12/17/2006 3:27:41 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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