McCain: Deploy More Troops to Iraq

Las Vegas Sun ^ | December 14, 2006 at 7:5:6 PST | THOMAS WAGNER ASSOCIATED PRESS

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

McCain is exactly right about this,,,,,

But the Vietnam War veteran also said that Americans must realize that if U.S. troops leave Iraq in a state of chaos, insurgent groups such as al-Qaida in Iraq "will follow us home."

[Vicomte13]

McCain is right, though he is off in orders of magnitude. We do not need 30,000 more troops in Iraq.
We need 300,000 more troops in Iraq.
And we shoulfd be using heavy airpower to punitively destroy those cities and towns in Sunni areas which are in rebellion, and also pound Moqtada al Sadr's compound to dust after we provoke him into striking at our forces.

We have to win in Iraq. We are losing the way we have been doing it. We are dying the death of 3000 small cuts, one by one, the will of the American people to fight is ebbing. That's what the election was about.

The President needs to exercise command authority and order a massive rolling escalation, with airstrikes into Syria too, at known camps. The Seals and Green Berets need to be in Iran fomenting rebellion. It is time to actually, finally, really and truly GO TO WAR.

Otherwise, defeat and collapse face us.

[Dixie Yooper]

he was recommending 15,000 to 30,000 additional forces

Unless he has some specific attack plans in mind, what he is recommending is 15,000 to 30,000 additional targets.

[tobyhill]

Do it and crush the terrorist once and for all, including Sadr, then if the Government is still standing and the Iraqi Military is still growing just declare victory.

[TommyDale]

"Send more cops!"

[Irish_Thatcherite]

There's hope for him, I suppose......

[Jeff Chandler]

There are plenty of troops in Iraq. The problem is we are fighting a politically correct war. The Rules of Engagement need to be loosened and we need to slaughter Sadr and any one associated with him and any other militia group. The Iraqi people should be more afraid of the United States than afraid of the insurgents. We never should have been afraid of being seen as occupying Iraq.

We should already have bombed the crap out of Syria and fomented revolution in Iran.

The Arabs and Persians should be crapping their pants at the thought of the US military. Instead, they are laughing at our kinder, gentler attitude.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

This was just posted:

Gunmen kidnap dozens in Baghdad

This was done in broad daylight and done by men ......

Gunmen dressed in military uniforms have kidnapped dozens of people from a commercial area in central Baghdad, according to Iraqi police.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

at our kinder, gentler attitude.

That attitude is dominant in the Congress...especially the Senate....

[MinorityRepublican]

We are not like the Russians. Now we are the good guys and the best way to ensure security in Iraq is to pour in more troops like McCain proposed.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

From the Captain's Quarters:

December 14, 2006
Is McCain Inevitable?

****************************AN EXCERPT ****************************

Robert Novak sees the beginnings of a GOP effort to consolidate itself behind one candidate for 2008 even this early in the primary process, paralleling similar efforts in 1996 (Robert Dole) and 2000 (George Bush). In this case, the "corporate" choice might be John McCain:

[Marine_Uncle]

I am getting tired of all this shit. I will re-iterate a few things I have voiced on this forum about a month ago.

The US and Iraqi forces started to form a total perimeter around ar Ramadi (capital of al Anbar) in order to then go in and rid the whole city of Saddamist, al Qaeda, and some sunni religious groups whom have supported al Qaeda and Saddamist.
The IG told them to stop after about a week. In other words. Call off the operation.

The US forces started to cordon off Sadr City and perform some low level raids.
The IG told them to stop these actions. Maliki is on the books as complaining that they where causing TRAFFIC JAMS.
We have enough ground troops and air support in Iraq to decimate all the resitance in it's many forms. We have SOCOM units, special Task Force units, Marines and Army units of all different mixes with of course heavy armor.
We have fully operational airbases in Al Assad, New Iskandariya, Balad, and other areas, that can on a moments notice bring in fixed wing and rotary aircraft to do as much damage is is required to any opposing force of any size.

I am getting extremely piss the hell off over this whole pile of crap. Lots of assholes that think they know what is best. And all don't look at the facts on the ground.
I do not believe this clowns are talking directly with our ground command and asking the correct questions.

[Spruce]

Until we kick the hell out of Iran and Syria things will not improve.

[Jeff Chandler]

We are not like the Russians. Now we are the good guys and the best way to ensure security in Iraq is to pour in more troops like McCain proposed.

We don't need to kill indiscriminately. We do need to slaughter the militias, and we don't need more troops to do it.

The reason the insurgents are so tenacious is that they know they have the Drive-By Media and the rest of the Democrats on their side. They know that the Democrats will wear us down until we fail like they did in Vietnam. It is a failure of the Bush administration that they haven't led the Republican Party in opposing the Democrat sedition and making the case for the war against jihad-ism.

McCain is no military strategist, he is a craven Washington politician, and he knows that he needs to position himself as contrary to the President in order to please his constituency, (the Drive-By Media), but has to appear hawkish in order to have a shot at the Republican nomination.

If McCain and the rest of the Republicans had joined Bush and our armed forces in bringing the truth to the American people, instead of either using every opportunity to stab Bush in the back or cower before the Democrats, the insurgents would be demoralized, not the American people.

[Jeff Chandler]

We have enough ground troops and air support in Iraq to decimate all the resitance in it's many forms.

Bingo. McCain is just being a self-serving politician, as usual.

I am getting extremely piss the hell off over this whole pile of crap. Lots of assholes that think they know what is best. And all don't look at the facts on the ground. I do not believe this clowns are talking directly with our ground command and asking the correct questions.

I honor your eloquence.

[veracious]

Nuts, put more in Iraq only if they're using it to stage against the Axis of Evil states.

[xzins]

15,000 to 30,000 more troops = 15,000 to 30,000 more targets.

Let the Iraqis do it.

Build them up. Turn them loose.

[bnelson44]

Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman said the delegation had met with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, and urged him to break his ties with anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and disarm his Mahdi Army militia.

I've noticed the call from Washington has changed from "control or disband the militia" to "break ties with al-Sadr".... interesting change....