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Threats Force Tancredo To Cancel Miami Speech
NBC6.net (South Florida) ^ | December 13, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 12/13/2006 3:02:07 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA

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To: WatchingInAmazement
Your post reflects a not uncommon misperception about "Miami." The population of the City of Miami, whose statistics you report here, accounts for only 15% of what is actually considered "Miami," that being Miami-Dade County, which has a population of about 2.5 million. Further, the overwhelming percentage of crime committed in the City of Miami is committed by blacks in the poor areas of the northern part of the city, particularly Liberty City.

Last time I checked, all of those blacks were born here and spoke nothing but English.

Tancredo is very wrong.

201 posted on 12/19/2006 1:40:55 PM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: rmlew

yup, so perhaps you are right and I just overreacted. ;-)


202 posted on 12/19/2006 1:59:17 PM PST by David1
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

I'm done here.

I have ideas that I believe will work in controllig the entry of illegal aliens into the country...I posted them on this forum years ago, you have ideas that to a degree match the ideas that I posted on this forum years ago, but you claim that we disagree.

I will make you a bet...Tom Tancredo has reached the zenith of his "political" career.


203 posted on 12/19/2006 8:09:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: King of Florida
From my standpoint there is not one square inch of Dade County(and soon Broward) that is safe, and many long term people who,like me were born there, have been voting with their feet in case you haven't' noticed.

I have to go there once a week and when I do it's either on a weekend when many of the bad guys sleep or at high noon. I never leave my car out of sight and try not to stay anywhere more that a few minutes, the place has become a hell hole in case you haven't noticed. In case you doubt the corruption angle(my daughter worked for the FDLE for years and they don't trust anyone in S. Fla.) I will give you just one small example. Seems many small trucks and vans masquerade as workmen and then burglarize are home,(anywhere in the county by the way). I was driving a van (with a Monroe County tag)and was pulled over and ticketed for not having a "sign" on my van. Even though I did not live in Dade County.

I purposely don't have a sign since I carry valuable mdse. and its better if I don't adv. for obvious reasons.

Long story short, the cop didn't want to hear it, gave me a "felony ticket" that cost $500. to have erased from my record by a lawyer that "everyone" knew.

. Just another of the magic city's many cons, and one of the lesser ones at that.

204 posted on 12/20/2006 4:55:56 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
From my standpoint there is not one square inch of Dade County(and soon Broward) that is safe

I could have stopped reading there, although I did read your entire post. If what you said were true, then I would be endangering my young children each and every time I took them out to the malls (the Dolphin, the International -- places I'm sure the vote-with-their-feet crowd have never even gone to because, yep, they're where Cuban Miami shops) -- and my nice cars and my nice home would have been broken into countless times.

To say you you are wildly overstating the case is itself an understatement, and I have little doubt that reflects certain -- dare I say it -- prejudices you harbor about the people who live here.

It's a big city and has big city problems, but it is no more unsafe than any other large urban area. There has been, and still is, some corruption, although I would not call it endemic, despite the fact it may have seemed that way in the past.

The only natives I know who have voted with their feet are those who despise Latins, particularly Latins who have the sheer affrontery to speak Spanish in public. Those that remain (with the obvious exception of the vaunted Steven Shulman) have embraced the fact that this has become a Latin city.

205 posted on 12/20/2006 6:55:38 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida
Are you a Republican? Because you sound like a dem/rat.

have embraced the fact that this has becomes a latin city? Who the hell would embrace the fact that their city has been hijacked by individuals that refuse to blend in with the age old concept of immigrants coming to the US and melting in. what is wrong with rapidly adopting the norms and customs of their new home that was so graciously extended to them?(remember the melting pot concept of former immigrants in the US)sorry dude but that's rat talk. No one embraces the fact that their home town was stolen by anyone any time. You sure do sound like a dem especially since one of their mantras is that anyone who has an opinion is automatically a racist. I see you aspire to that philosophy as well. Nice try! Come back when you have a valid argument.

206 posted on 12/20/2006 4:41:34 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
The ignorance displayed in your post completely undercuts what you laughably potray as an argument. The Latin population in Miami is overwhelmingly GOP. My representative is Lincoln Diaz-Balart. Before I moved, it was Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. Both were born in Cuba, and both are staunch conservative Republicans. If what I say sounds like "rat talk," then so does what they say. (And, I might add, so does what Jeb Bush, perhaps the greatest governor this state has ever had, has said. He called Tancredo an idiot.)

So much for your "theory" about those disagreeing with your virulent nativism necessarily being Democrats.

207 posted on 12/21/2006 5:06:32 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida
You obviously don't get what is going on.

Since the late 50's early 60's the Democrats have consistently played upon the fact that the melting pot system of new immigrants coming to the country does not work anymore. It's been been hijacked. They have very sophisticatedly helped sub divide what has become mostly their constituencies; little dem voting groups playing upon each ones ethnic divide. The dems play upon each ethnic groups tendency to stay within that group, to the detriment of the country,IMHO.

Today we have African Americans,Haitian Americans,Mexican Americans,and their latest group they are going after-- Muslim Americans. etc etc. and no one is encouraged to melt in to the country and simply become an "American" any more.

It's sort of a divide and conquer tactic they have devised. The dems have very slickly made appeals based on dividing different groups based on their "differences" instead of our common unity. In many instances it works.

They promise everything to everyone and with a few exceptions such as Cubans who have been under the rule of Castro and know what communism is and want no part of it and a few others from the far east who don't buy their BS either, it has been working.

They are dividing the country and making outrageous promises they can never keep and many fall for under the name of "diversity". But it's all BS,just new voting blocks for a political party that stands for nothing but defeating us.

Our country was based on immigrants coming here,melting in and all of us becoming just "Americans" not hyphenated Americans. Our national language should be English and there is no rhyme nor reason to establish Spanish,creole,Chinese or whatever language zones in any area of the country "if we are all to be united as Americans," it makes little sense.

Don't tell me about Ileana ros, I have know her husband since the 60's interviewed her on the radio and continue to support her all I can,so you may not be as all knowing as you pretend to be.

208 posted on 12/21/2006 5:39:17 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
Don't tell me about Ileana ros, I have know her husband since the 60's interviewed her on the radio and continue to support her all I can,so you may not be as all knowing as you pretend to be.

If you know Dexter and support Ileana all you can, then what you must realize that your comments about Miami would definitely rub her the wrong way. Also, your shifting gears into a diatribe about multiculturalism. I'm not talking about multiculturalism. I'm talking about Miami as a gateway for hard-working legal Latin immigrants to feel comfortable speaking their native tongue, knowing their children will speak English fluently, and their grandchildren will only speak Spanish. As long as Spanish-speaking people immigrate to the U.S., Miami will be a magnet for them. It's not a bad thing, it's a good thing. Most of the children and grandchildren of Latin immigrants here are as Americanized as anyone here on FR.

209 posted on 12/21/2006 6:17:28 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida
Obviously you don't get it.
210 posted on 12/21/2006 6:23:16 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
Obviously you don't get it.

Funny, that's precisely my reaction to you.

211 posted on 12/21/2006 6:25:16 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Thanx for the post. I'm there somewhere. Regards --


212 posted on 12/28/2006 12:51:33 PM PST by Migjagger
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