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Judge copied ACLU in anti-design ruling
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | December 12, 2006 | Art Moore

Posted on 12/12/2006 8:52:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor

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To: antiRepublicrat
Note that if you dig down into the DI's own report, you will see this little disclaimer:

Proposed “findings of fact” are prepared to assist judges in writing their opinions, and judges are certainly allowed to draw on them. Indeed, judges routinely invite lawyers to propose findings of fact in order to verify what the lawyers believe to be the key factual issues in the case. Thus, in legal circles Judge Jones’ use of the ACLU’s proposed “Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law” would not be considered “plagiarism” nor a violation of judicial ethics.

Dig down? It’s on page 3, it is not a disclaimer, and it continues:

Nonetheless, the extent to which Judge Jones simply copied the language submitted to him by the ACLU is stunning. For all practical purposes, Jones allowed ACLU attorneys to write nearly the entire section of his opinion analyzing whether intelligent design is science. As a result, this central part of Judge Jones’ ruling reflected essentially no original deliberative activity or independent examination of the record on Jones’ part. The revelation that Judge Jones in effect “dragged and dropped” large sections of the ACLU’s “Findings of Fact” into his opinion, errors and all, calls into serious question whether Jones exercised the kind of independent analysis that would make his “broad, stinging rebuke” of intelligent design appropriate.

161 posted on 12/13/2006 9:41:25 AM PST by Heartlander (My view from the cheap seats ;)
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To: Heartlander

So the DI is talking about of both sides of its mouth. Not terribly surprising.


162 posted on 12/13/2006 11:11:49 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Heartlander

No doubt the school board should invest a few million more dollars getting this finding overturned.

Or perhaps the Discovery Institute can convince another school board to put a couple million dollars at risk.


163 posted on 12/13/2006 12:05:28 PM PST by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: highball; Heartlander
Ugh. That should be:

So the DI is talking out of both sides of its mouth. Not terribly surprising.
164 posted on 12/13/2006 1:00:33 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: editor-surveyor

In your post #120, you stated, "The fraud called cancer surgery that has to be rejected, and surgery is never for God's sake."...

What would you use in place of cancer surgery, if one is diagnosed with a cancerous tumor, that could easily be removed?...I am curious as to what alternatives you would suggest, should one find themselves diagnosed with such a tumor...


165 posted on 12/13/2006 1:08:23 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: editor-surveyor

And as a followup to my post #165....I take it that you believe that any surgery that is not trauma surgery, goes against the God...do you have Scriptures to back this up?...I am curious to see where in the Bible, one finds this notion...maybe you could point out a few Scriptures which detail this, and I am sure that it would be helpful to see where in the Bible, you have found this...


166 posted on 12/13/2006 1:18:23 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Heartlander
Dig down? It’s on page 3, it is not a disclaimer, and it continues:

Again, you skirt the point. Despite the rhetoric in their press release portraying the judge as unethical and a parrot of the ACLU, that conveniently-omitted paragraph (which is in effect a disclaimer) says the judge did nothing wrong, which destroys their whole argument in the press release.

They may have a personal problem with the extent to which the judge used the winner's text because they disagree with the ACLU, but the facts that they admit still leave them without a leg to stand on. The judge did absolutely nothing wrong in extensively quoting the ACLU, and the DI is grasping at straws in a pathetic attempt to defame the judge.

Unfortunately there are many people, even on FR, who fall for it. The DI knows this, and knows that their followers swallow the story whole, not bothering to research further to find the truth. And as we've seen here the True Believers will continue to believe even when faced with the facts of how our legal system works.

167 posted on 12/13/2006 1:19:40 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Backgrounder on the Significance of Judicial Copying

On December 12, 2006, Discovery Institute released a report which found that “90.9% (or 5,458 words) of Judge Jones’ 6,004-word section on intelligent design as science was taken virtually verbatim from the ACLU’s proposed ‘Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law’.” Since that time, we have received questions from various media sources and members of the public. This backgrounder on the report will help answer some common questions:

Why is this report important?
The section on whether ID is science is the most celebrated and expansive portion of the Kitzmiller opinion, which Judge Jones hoped would have an impact on future courts. As constitutional law scholar Stephen Gey said, “the critique of ID and science is the most important part of the Kitzmiller opinion . . .” Yet even the anti-ID legal scholar Jay Wexler agrees that this section was NOT necessary to the ruling and is highly controversial. The discovery that Judge Jones’ section on whether ID is science was taken almost entirely verbatim or near-verbatim from an ACLU brief will likely give future courts good reasons to have significant hesitation before citing to this section of the ruling.

Moreover, this report is changing the verdict of the court of public opinion upon the issue. The report recounts the unyielding praise many Darwinists previously gave Judge Jones, but now even the arch-Darwinist biochemistry professor Larry Moran is admitting, “The legal significance of the decision doesn't change but my opinion of Judge Jones does. He is no longer the brilliant man who was able to grasp complex scientific concepts in the blink of an eye.”

Other members of the public would agree with the report’s central arguments that “the extent to which Judge Jones simply copied the language submitted to him by the ACLU is stunning” and that “[t]he revelation that Judge Jones in effect ‘dragged and dropped’ large sections of the ACLU’s ‘Findings of Fact’ into his opinion, errors and all, calls into serious question whether Jones exercised the kind of independent analysis that would make his ‘broad, stinging rebuke’ of intelligent design appropriate.”

Are you accusing Judge Jones of plagiarism or any other violation of judicial ethics?
No. As the report reads, “Proposed ‘findings of fact’ are prepared to assist judges in writing their opinions, and judges are certainly allowed to draw on them. Indeed, judges routinely invite lawyers to propose findings of fact in order to verify what the lawyers believe to be the key factual issues in the case. Thus, in legal circles Judge Jones’ use of the ACLU’s proposed ‘Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law’ would not be considered ‘plagiarism’ nor a violation of judicial ethics.”

Don’t judges do this all the time?
Not to such a high extent of copying that Judge Jones employed. While there is no absolute prohibition against what Judge Jones did, the Associated Press reports that a legal scholar at the Louis Stein Center for Law and Ethics at Fordham Law School explained that it is “not typical for judges to adopt one side's proposed findings verbatim.”

Do Courts Approve of this Practice?
The answer to this question is clearly “no”: The Third Circuit, which governs all federal courts in Pennsylvania, has strong law discouraging judges from simply adopting ‘verbatim or near verbatim’ the findings of fact of parties in a case. One Third Circuit ruling in 2005, In re: Community Bank of Northern Virginia, held that it is “highly disapproved of” for judges to adopt the briefs of parties in a “verbatim or near verbatim” fashion.1 In 2004, the Third Circuit also had harsh words for a judge which unilaterally adopted the recommendations of one party:

Judicial opinions are the core work-product of judges. They are much more than findings of fact and conclusions of law; they constitute the logical and analytical explanations of why a judge arrived at a specific decision. They are tangible proof to the litigants that the judge actively wrestled with their claims and arguments and made a scholarly decision based on his or her own reason and logic. When a court adopts a party's proposed opinion as its own, the court vitiates the vital purposes served by judicial opinions. We, therefore, cannot condone the practice used by the District Court in this case.2

A 1964 U.S. Supreme Court case called a judge who adopted a party’s findings of facts verbatim ‘not the product of the workings of the district judge's mind’ and noted the findings of fact had been ‘mechanically adopted’ by the district court.”3 The late federal appellate Judge James Skelly Wright, famous for desegregating New Orleans public schools, was favorably quoted by the U.S. Supreme Court for instructing judges to avoid the blanket adoption of lawyers’ arguments:
I suggest to you strongly that you avoid as far as you possibly can simply signing what some lawyer puts under your nose. These lawyers, and properly so, in their zeal and advocacy and their enthusiasm are going to state the case for their side in these findings as strongly as they possibly can. When these findings get to the courts of appeals they won't be worth the paper they are written on as far as assisting the court of appeals in determining why the judge decided the case.4

Finally, in a 1985 U.S. Supreme Court ruling the Court similarly noted that “[w]e, too, have criticized courts for their verbatim adoption of findings of fact prepared by prevailing parties, particularly when those findings have taken the form of conclusory statements unsupported by citation to the record.”5 Thus, it is clear that while the “verbatim or near verbatim” adoption of a party’s findings of facts practice is not prohibited, it is also highly disapproved of by many courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court and the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, which governs Judge Jones’ own court. There is a good reason for this: it “vitiates the vital purposes served by judicial opinions.”

Why are you issuing this report now, almost a year after the ruling?
Judge Jones issued his ruling in late December 2005. Discovery Institute subsequently published critiques of the Kitzmiller ruling in April 2006, with Traipsing Into Evolution, the first book-length critique of the Kitzmiller ruling. But we did not discover the extensive copying and pasting in Judge Jones' ruling until September 2006, when Michael Behe was investigating the source of Judge Jones’ misquote of Behe in the Kitzmiller ruling. Work began on the present report at that time with aims to release it around the 1 year anniversary of the Kitzmiller ruling.

Did Judge Jones copy the entire opinion from the ACLU?
Other sections of the ruling were taken verbatim from the ACLU’s proposed Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, but we have not conducted a quantitative analysis of the level of copying in those sections. The report covers only the section of the Kitzmiller opinion which purported to address the question of whether ID is science.

What role did this "ID as science" section play in the entire judicial opinion?
Under current constitutional law, Judge Jones could have struck down the ruling without addressing whether ID is science. But Judge Jones claimed it was “incumbent upon the Court to further address . . . whether ID is science.” Judge Jones even sought answer the question for all other courts, writing that “no other tribunal in the United States is in a better position than” him to address whether ID is science, and declared his “hope that it may prevent the obvious waste of judicial and other resources which would be occasioned by a subsequent trial involving the precise question” of whether ID is science (Online version, pages 63-64). Clearly, Judge Jones sought to settle the question of whether ID is science for all future courts. Yet, as the study aptly concludes, “The new disclosure that Judge Jones’ analysis of the scientific status of ID merely copied language written for him by ACLU attorneys underscores just how inappropriate this part of Kitzmiller was—and why Judge Jones’ analysis should not be regarded as the final word about intelligent design.”

Cases Cited:
1. In re: Community Bank of Northern Virginia, 418 F.3d 277, 300, 319 (3rd Cir. 2005). Back to text.
2. Bright v. Westmoreland County, 380 F.3d 729, 732 (3rd Cir. 2004). Back to text.
3. United States v. El Paso Natural Gas Company, 376 U.S. 65, 656, 657 (1964). Back to text.
4. Judge James Skelly Wright quoted in United States v. El Paso Natural Gas Company, 376 U.S. 65, 657, fn4 (1964) (internal citations and quotations omitted). Back to text.
5. Anderson v. Bessemer City, 470 U.S. 564, 572 (1985). Back to text.


168 posted on 12/13/2006 2:44:27 PM PST by Heartlander (My view from the cheap seats ;)
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To: Heartlander
Okay, let's look at this copying thing:

it is not typical for judges to adopt one side's proposed findings verbatim

When a court adopts a party's proposed opinion as its own, the court vitiates the vital purposes served by judicial opinions.

“[w]e, too, have criticized courts for their verbatim adoption

That sounds pretty damning for any judge whose decision is simply a copy of what the lawyers proposed. But let's look at the fine print: 90% of a 25 page section of the whole decision was ACLU material. That's 16% of the decision.

Sounds like the judge did a lot of his own work and the he used the lawyers' work for only a tiny portion of it.

169 posted on 12/13/2006 4:10:24 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

"The Discovery Institute's lawyers know this, and John West, their VP of legal affairs quoted in this, definitely knows. They're just putting this out to curry public favor among those who know nothing about how the courts work...."

This may be so. However, it still doesn't mitigate that the judge was hailed as "brilliant" that handed down the decision as if it was his work. If indeed he did just use someone else's work, how did that make him brillant? I remember him being lauded as a really great thinker...well if what was written was the product of a "great thinker", it wasn't the judge. So, it is good that this has come out, and equally good that the process has been revealed. It makes me take an even dimmer view of this judge and the publicity this story received.


171 posted on 12/13/2006 7:09:06 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: andysandmikesmom
"What would you use in place of cancer surgery, if one is diagnosed with a cancerous tumor, that could easily be removed?"

Surgery in general is very hazardous. If you are losing blood rapidly from an internal injury, then it is likely justifiable by comparing the relative dangers. This is not an alternative medicine thread, so I will not go into any depth on the many exceptionally effective, and safe treatments available, but if you want detail send me a freep mail. Most if not all of those treatments are measurably more efficatious and desirable than surgery, radation, or chemo.

172 posted on 12/13/2006 7:19:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: andysandmikesmom
"I take it that you believe that any surgery that is not trauma surgery, goes against the God...do you have Scriptures to back this up?"

Jeremiah
17:5 "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
17:6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
17:7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
17:008 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit."

2 Chronicles (King Asa's diabetes)
16:12 "And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.
16:13 And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign."

James
5:013 "Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
005:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much"

173 posted on 12/13/2006 7:38:12 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

Sorry, i'll take surgery over psalms every time.


174 posted on 12/13/2006 7:40:52 PM PST by blowfish
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To: blowfish

That's why I'll live way longer than you.


175 posted on 12/13/2006 7:44:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

If you look at what's happening, you should be able to pinpoint what the REAL PROBLEM is.

What this news shows is DISHONESTY on the part of Judge Jones during the proceedings of the court case.

There were several ID proponents who recently attended a speech given by Judge Jones.

In that speech, he practically stated that he had made up his mind within the first week of the hearing but allowed the case to proceed anyway.

Why did he do that ? My guess is to gather more press attention ala Scopes.

So, BEFORE evidence was even presented, this man had already decided what his ruling would be. The rest of the proceedings would only be for show. It is OBVIOUS that he didn’t put much effort into considering this case honestly and objectively.

This "plagiarism" from ACLU simply provides evidence for this.

Judge Jones has shown himself to be BOTH a POLITICAL ACTIVIST and also a NEWS SEEKING HACK.


176 posted on 12/13/2006 10:13:32 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: DaveLoneRanger

LOL!


177 posted on 12/13/2006 10:18:22 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: SirLinksalot
Judge Jones has shown himself to be BOTH a POLITICAL ACTIVIST and also a NEWS SEEKING HACK.

And he is WRONG (in the same sense as Zell Miller used it at the 2004 GOP convention!)

178 posted on 12/13/2006 11:30:48 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I had the impression that you are some kind of law student and, therefore, should know how a judicial ruling is written...
179 posted on 12/13/2006 11:43:22 PM PST by si tacuissem (.. lurker mansissem)
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To: highball

Thanks for the Behe testimony. He is absolutely correct. A theory that has been disproved can still be correctly classified as a "scientific" theory. I suggest you educate yourself on the matter and quit trying to make Behe look like a fool when you are the one who is wrong.

Here's a clue for you guys who think Behe is such a clown: he is so much smarter than you that you will never be able to comprehend how much smarter he is.


180 posted on 12/14/2006 3:57:51 AM PST by RussP
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