Posted on 12/11/2006 11:06:46 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
Right
We seated one of the most conservative presidents in recent history in 2000, and he could not hold Congress.
Conservatism lost.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Sometimes it takes someone outside the problem to really see what's wrong.
The only thing I'd take issue with is that 'twinge of conscience' thing. They expanded government shamelessly and at a pace that even LBJ would have envied.
Other than that minor quibble, very well said, sir.
L
You get it, how refreshing.
Great post.
Reagan did just that, but as much as I admire President Bush, he's not good at it and the GOP took a beating as a result of it.
Sure they did.
By all accounts, it was the "I" vote that swung...but go ahead and keep your head in the sand.
It's safer there.
Regards, Ivan
Bill Bennett was symptomatic of the whole party as a moral compass.
Thank God the President managed to stay fairly clear from scandal.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I've seen the Jaywalking (Leno) segments often. It freaks me out to see people that ignorant. Sean finds some beauties on the street too.
I'll be 60 next month. I've seen this conscious/purposeful dumbing down of the children for decades. It's not getting any better, because it serves the powerful to have this large ignorant class. Just as long as the trains run and the sewers work, all the rest of the people can be ignorant fools...... and they are.
And it's all one lovely plan to tear down America. Gotta give them credit......... they're good.
As Butch Cassidy used to ask Sundance when they were being followed by the posse, "Who are those guys? I couldn't do that, could you do that?"
;-)
First you need to show a difference between the two. Why don't you try that.
It would be a very refreshing change of pace.
Just a thought.
I can't advance any ideology with the opposition in power.
In order to advance an ideology you first must have one.
And just for the record "Us too, just not so fast" doesn't count as an ideology.
L
goldstategop wrote: "No - the RINOs lost"
Republican Incumbents Who Lost in the House:
Jim Ryun (KS) - ACU rating 98
J.D. Hayworth (AZ) - ACU rating 98
Richard Pombo (CA) - ACU rating 97
Chris Chocola (IN) - ACU rating 95
Gil Gutknecht (MN) - ACU rating 94
Charles Taylor (NC) - ACU rating 92
Mike Sodrel (IN) - ACU rating 92
Melissa Hart (PA) - ACU rating 91
John Hostettler (IN) - ACU rating 90
Don Sherwood (PA) - ACU rating 87
Anne Northup (KY) - ACU rating 86
Clay Shaw (NC) ACU rating 82
John Sweeney (NY) ACU rating 77
Jeb Bradley (NH) ACU rating 71
Charles Bass (NH) ACU rating 71
Curt Weldon (PA) ACU rating 70
Sue Kelly (NY) ACU rating 65
Mike Fitzpatrick (PA) ACU rating 60
Nancy Johnson (CT) ACU rating 47
Jim Leach (IA) ACU rating 43
Vacated Republican seats lost
DeLay (TX) ACU rating 95
Beuprez (COL) ACU rating 93
Green (WI) ACU rating 88
Nussle (IA) ACU rating 86
Ney (OH) ACU rating 86
Foley (FLA) ACU rating 78
Koly (AZ) ACU rating 74
Boelert (NY) ACU rating 40
Democrat Incumbent seats lost
None.
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Republican Incumbents Who Lost in the Senate:
Burns (MT) - ACU rating 91
Allen (VA) - ACU rating 92
Santorum (PA) - ACU rating 88
Talent (MO) - ACU rating 93
DeWine (OH) - ACU rating 80
Chafee (RI) - ACU rating 37
Democrat Incumbent seats lost
None.
Wha's frightening about it Lurker?
Is it "government of the people, by the people, for the people" or is it government by your ideology?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
wrong
"Conservatism lost."
Nope, the Republican party lost. Did you bother to follow any of the local state-by-state races ? Scores of Democrats cross-dressing as CONSERVATIVE family-values style candidates from coast to coast, hoodwinking the public. In Tennessee alone, we had 'Rats attempting to get well to the RIGHT of our Republican nominees. Want to know how come Harold Ford, Jr. nearly pulled off an upset win ? He RAN as a Conservative Republican ! Our nominee was so damaged as the most LIBERAL RINO in the race that he almost lost. Nope, this was a defeat for the GOP. The 'Rats used a Conservative platform to win this election. Conservatism won, even if these treacherous buffoons have no intention of voting that way.
Can you point out the RINOS is post #52?
But then Carter came along and the goalposts were moved back considerably. Not only was Carter the worst President in history, he's making the ex-Presidency of Bill Clinton look positively statesmanlike.
L
Look over post #52 and tell me I'm wrong again.
So Republicans in Rhode Island, California, and Massachusetts should "go where the voters are"?
Please....
You seem to think that winning elections is about abandoning leadership and principles and taking up full-scale pandering. No thanks. As has always been the case, winning elections is about having a sound message and delivering it passionately with conviction. If the Republicans did that last month, I must have missed it....
This past election has been made out to be some kind of surprising upset when in fact Republican losses were actually MILD compared to the history of incumbent party losses in the 6th year of a two-term Presidency. Cycles happen. We actually got off easy.
When you consider that the war wasn't going particularly well (and Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms worked overtime to make it appear to be going even worse than it was) along with a few high profile Republican scandals (Cunningham, Foley, Weldon, DeLay, and a few more Abramoff acquaintances), plus the complete lack of any strong national message from the party as a whole, you had the perfect recipe for the election we had.
In retrospect, it is astounding that the GOP's election losses weren't a lot worse than they were. And James Carville said exactly that when he called for Dean's head right after the election.
So you can keep your "we need to be squishy moderates" prescription for GOP success.
It's a loser.
Regards,
LH
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