Posted on 12/10/2006 10:04:01 PM PST by neverdem
libertarians are sick of big spending liberals... aka the GOP
I am an atheist... I just don't agree with cultural Marxism like a lot of the liberal-tarian phonies...
A greater number of "atheists" and "pagans" adopt the same hackneyed tenets of a false Judaic-Christian ideal (golden calf). They also subscribe to the Judaic fetishism of "sin," but will fight to their death in denial of it. Most of them are so wrapped up in their own polemics that they have become nothing more than pathetic anti-Christians with the same false hypocritical philosophy. They just slap a new label on it hoping nobody will notice
Having been born and grown up in the thucking USSR, I'd say that I have seen the marxists [I mean the real ones, and not the figments of your imagination] in all shapes, sizes and colors.
You never went to Berkeley or Santa Cruz?
You have made it obvious your are linguistically challenged with reading English...
You must not... cultural Marxism is no different than economic Marxism... they both lead to the same result...
"I must have missed that"
While my response was intentional hyperbole, Social Conservative movement brought us wonderful experiments like Prohibition and the resulting explosion of federal law enforcement and facilities to enforce it, which have long out-lasted Prohibition itself.
'....ending up living in a van...down by the river' /SNL humour
Intelligent people don't stop supporting a party because some members of a party aren't nice to them. Think about what you're saying here. It just makes your fellow Losertarians look foolish.
Judicial nominations, bud. Big stuff, in case you hadn't noticed.
If you don't understand how the Senate works, I'm not going to waste time with you.
There is no such thing as cultural marxism. All marxism is sociological [i.e. behavioral - towards other people], in whatever guise it comes. For example, our clintons are marxists [or rather, commies] even if they do not know it, for they walk through life as commie nomenclaturists - "laws are for thee, but not for me, I'm from the master race!". Thanks for confirming my diagnosis, not that it needed confirmation.
Please tell me how libertarian minded people are in favor or economic or cultural Marxism? Libertarians are very much individualists and not collectivists.
Respectfully, it does seem that you do not know what the term Marxism really means. I don't blame you though, because many of the Freeper oldtimers are confused by the term as well.
Somehow, the term 'Marxist' has been confused by social conservatives to mean any way of thinking that is contrary to setting up a theocracy.
>>small "L" libertatians
Winning elections is about creating coalitions. Without the libertarians (fiscal conservative, social liberal), the Republicans will not win. That doesn't mean that the Republicans have to nominate libertarian candidates, just nominate someone who doesn't scare off the libertarian voters.
Here in Republican bedrock country, Kansas, we are seeing this play out. This past election cycle, we lost two good men, Phill Kline, state AG, and Jim Ryun, 2nd district Congressman because the libertarian vote went to the Democrat candidates (both defections from the Republican Party). Our Lt. Gov. (who ran with Kathleen Sebelius) is also a Republican defection. I'm concerned that similar dynamics might play out on the national scene as the libertarian vote aligns with the Democrat party more often than not.
Where did you get that? Libertarians are in favor of the People having the liberty to do what they wish until it starts interfering with someone else's rights or liberties.
Unfortunatey, busy bodies (both socialists and social conservatives) hate the fact that someone, somewhere might be having a good time so they want to use police power of the state to push through their social engineering ideas.
You're confusing libertarians with members of the Libertarian party - they aren't the same thing.
Small "L" libertarians are a huge voting block in both the Republican and Democratic parties, though more so in the Republican party.
With just the social conservative vote (which a decent size still goes to the Dems), the GOP might get about 30% of the general vote - so the question is, do the social conservatives want to be politically relevant or not?
Please don't. I have no time for people willing to excuse anything a legislooter does as long as there is an (R) by its name.
I haven't read this entire thread, but after reading the first page, I can already tell that a lot of people don't get it. Sorry but this article is accurate, and a significant portion of libertarian voters as defined by this article voted Democrat in the last election.
But, but, why would libertarians vote for the party of even bigger government?! Well, think about it. As definied by the article, libertarians are voters who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. The Republican Congress for the past several years has placed a huge emphasis on socially conservative wedge issues while also being fiscally irresponsible. So why the hell should these libertarians vote Republican? They probably saw the Democrats as being more palatable on social issues while thinking that nothing could be worse than the existing Congress when it came to fiscal responsibility.
While I'd consider myself more of a fiscal conservative/social moderate and don't know if I'd be considered a libertarian as defined by this article, I can definitely sympathize with them. Will the upcoming Democratic Congress be better than the previous Republican one? Of course not. But the Republican Party better learn that there's more to their potential constituency than James Dobson and his followers.
I don't "excuse anything."
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