Posted on 12/10/2006 9:46:26 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
You are definitely giving me experience with sub humans. I've never met someone who beleives in killing little girls for political ideology until you.
I'm sorry, but how is mass imprisonment and using Machiavellian machinations of getting the population to agree with you in order to turn public opinion against the Communists not a more humane, and rather more elegant, way of putting them down instead of executing them all without a second thought?
The Far Lesser of two evils. Given the choice, I go with the 'mass imprisonment', because Communism itself is a prison for the entire population.
Precisely. I was criticizing Pinochet not because he stopped Communists, but some of the tactics he used were brutal, or at least questionable. I would have preferred that he did something like Vargas did in Brazil and made the public see the threat of the Communists, allowing him to root them out and systemetically imprision them and remove their power. No death squads necessary.
And I must say that some of the steps he did seemed, well, dictatorial. If Chile really was in such a bad state that Pinochet couldn't bring back the civilian gov't (as his initial supporters in the CDP and the Catholic Church wanted), whey couldn't he call for the U.S. or some sort of OAS force to aid him in restoring order? Why didn't he respond to accusations of brutalities by going, "I have nothing to hide, I only serve my country", and answering the accusations?
Fair enough - I'm not claiming the man was a saint. Only that he did more good than harm.
is he still dead???
Anyone who has done more good than harm while on his earthly pilgrimage is destined to become a saint. Anyone not on the road to sainthood is destined for damnation or non-sainthood. Sacred Scripture, testifies that the number of those destined for damnation outnumbers those destined for sainthood. Augusto Pinochet opposed error; the error of Hegel, Karl Marx, Lenin and a host of other godless communists and materialistic atheists. Not to oppose error is to testify to be in error, or even worse, to be indifferent to error.
It is an incomplete notion of freedom to imagine that one can be free to persist in error and to forcibly spread that error upon others as we have witnessed in so many countries since the end of WWII. Generalissimo Augusto Pinochet understood this and took action against the spread of atheistic communism in Chile--which pervades, imbues and infects so many western political mentalities under the name of socialism, democracy and republicanism.
You're confused with Colombia and Nicaragua. He was the president of Chile.
I Don't see that Pervez-M wants to nuke India. India developed the bomb first. India took over the Muslim majority state Hyderabad, and then invaded the Muslim majority state Jammu-Kashmir. Subsequently they intervened in the Pakistan civil war, invading East Pakistan and creating the puppet state of Bangledesh.
I see where Pervez-M has been targeted by Islamofacists, who have attempted to murder him a time or two. Making a decision to support freedom for others, at substantial personal risk- That is a pretty good definition of heroism, to me.
Now, having said that, Pinochet had at least supervisory responsiblity for 3000 some odd Chilian people killed in putting down the attempted communist take over. So, is it your opinion that there were less than 3000 communist supporters in Chile, and therefore he killed too many people? Most communist takeovers occur with say 5 or 10 percent of the people supporting. I find his actions to put down the communist "self coup" rather moderate.
If he stole the people's money after the fact, then he is just another moderately corrupt politician. That makes him no worse than Harry Reid, Jack Murtha, Duke Cunningham, or William Jefferson in my book.
He stepped down. That covers rather a lot of sins in my book. RIP Augusto.
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