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Bush And Blair Refuse To Move Over Iraq
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-8-2006 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 12/07/2006 6:56:01 PM PST by blam

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To: ClancyJ

Yeah but Abraham Lincoln wasn't hated worldwide like President Bush is currently. Half of the nation despise Bush and most of the world hates him.


61 posted on 12/07/2006 8:40:26 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Yeah but Abraham Lincoln wasn't hated worldwide like President Bush is currently. Half of the nation despise Bush and most of the world hates him."

Is the world shrinking or is is Chirac only getting smaller? Who knows. LOL.

62 posted on 12/07/2006 8:49:51 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Most of the world only know what their media feeds them. Have you noticed any international outrage at the govt of Sudan for genocide, or at China for supporting them? We do more good in the world than Europe and all the rest put together.----Mark


63 posted on 12/07/2006 8:55:20 PM PST by Black Republican for Bush (Never trust a democrat with foreign policy.)
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To: Fred Nerks; blam; jan in Colorado; USF; Allegra; ariamne; Former Dodger; Finny

A fantastic article for exposing the biases of the press, and of those toadying Neo-Lib socialist sycophants and capitulators who oppose Bush and Blair {and the democratically elected leaders of Australia, Denmark, Israel, Poland, and Ukraine}.

A pox upon their houses!

BTW, am I the only one who has noticed and been outraged by the disrespect the U.K. Telegraph "reporters" {term used quite loosely indeed!} are showing 'Mr. Bush'?

The last time I looked, he was still the duly elected President of the United States, and as the sole occupant of that office, social and journalistic conventions rightly accord and confer upon him the correct and appropriate honourarium due - which is to call him -

"President Bush", damnit!

AM I the only one who noticed this obvious and intended slight, which was repeated in the body of the article?!

I am not joking - were I their managing editor, these inexcusably ignorant and biased practitioners of the journalistic art would discover their wages docked for this and any other similar infractions. Should there accumulate too many violations, they would find out how truly dispensable their services were!

[finished with soapbox rant, the AmericanArchConservative steps down from his perch]

A.A.C.


64 posted on 12/07/2006 9:00:58 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Black Republican for Bush

"I'll take Bush and Blair as leaders over anyone from the other party. Baker's group is off base on many counts. Imagine believing that talking to enemies like Iran and Syria will help us in Iraq."

I think I agree with what you stated above, but I want to make sure we are on the same page.

Generally, I am against talking directly with Syria and Iran.

I could consider it, if the purpose was only to meet with them and say "Shape up or else"

I would not oppose direct talk if the talk is truly direct. I completly oppose talk with either, much less both if the talk is to appease.


65 posted on 12/07/2006 9:02:01 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Earthdweller

"Rummy was the sacrificial lamb. The scapegoat. He did it to save the the US from the political foes, to save the Presidency, to save Iraq, to save the ME, to save the world.
Freedom will prevail. Godspeed Rummy."

I am not going to argue against your statement above, but I will ask: Are you sure Rummy didn't resign because he was tired of answering stupid questions? I ask this question because I can not believe some of the idiotic questions he has been asked by people who whine if they are not the first informed of a situation.


66 posted on 12/07/2006 9:07:23 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
"Are you sure Rummy didn't resign because he was tired of answering stupid questions? "

Oh..I believe what you say and more..much more.

67 posted on 12/07/2006 9:09:11 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: jveritas

"So many stupid questions from so many stupid people."

Yes, and those asking the stupid questions are the ones proclaiming that they are the only ones qualified to ask questions.

I think the American people would be much better educated as to the state of this country and the world if the President was to have a news conference with people like you, JimRob and some others here asking the questions.


68 posted on 12/07/2006 9:11:47 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
"I think the American people would be much better educated as to the state of this country and the world if the President was to have a news conference with people like you, JimRob and some others here asking the questions."

Now there is a great idea...Give it to the youth, of America of course!

69 posted on 12/07/2006 9:14:16 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Black Republican for Bush
Most of the world only know what their media feeds them. Have you noticed any international outrage at the govt of Sudan for genocide, or at China for supporting them? We do more good in the world than Europe and all the rest put together.----Mark

You are right, China could execute thousands of prisoners on ABC News Live and the MSM will still find a way to justify that.

In contrast to fraternity pranks we did in Iraq on the captured terrorists.

70 posted on 12/07/2006 9:15:29 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: blam

"....the only realistic path to security is by ensuring the spread of liberty,"


This is THE most important thing he can say.
And it deserves repeating a thousand times if necessary.
Because it is TRUE.


71 posted on 12/07/2006 9:15:53 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: AmericanArchConservative
A defiant and at times prickly President George W Bush stood alongside Tony Blair yesterday...


Hello! I read somewhere recently that it's common practice and quite acceptable, to refer to The President of the United States of America as Mr Bush after giving him his correct title...it's Blair who got short shrift in this article...only President Bush referred to Tony Blair as the Prime Minister.

But then, President Bush is a well mannered, courteous man. Whereas 'journalists' can only be described as..... deleted expletives.
72 posted on 12/07/2006 9:16:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: blam

"It's bad in Iraq. That help?" he shot back fiercely. "You want frankness? I thought we would succeed quicker than we did. And I am disappointed by the pace of success."

That was the beginning of a great segment with President stating what's at stake. I'm glad they came out so quickly with a response.


73 posted on 12/07/2006 9:19:34 PM PST by swheats ( STAY VIGILANT! Our Victory still depends on you.)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Did you hear some of the stupid questions during the ISG report. One idiot reporter asked the ISG if President is obliged to follow all their recommendations! How stupid can these people be? How can their little brain allow them to think for one second that the President of the United States is obliged to follow recommendations from a group of clowns. The President is more powerful than 66% of Congress on domestic issues, and have almost total control of foreign policy and a reporter with an IQ of 5 is asking whether he is obliged to follow the recommendations of the ISG. Just unbelievable.
74 posted on 12/07/2006 9:25:00 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom

Let's realize that any meaningful talk would involve appeasement. Iran and Syria would ask for alot. That is a road to nowhere.


75 posted on 12/07/2006 9:30:02 PM PST by Black Republican for Bush (Never trust a democrat with foreign policy.)
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To: jveritas

And I'm glad the Prez pretty much shot down the Iran-Syria idea. God bless this man of steel.--Mark


76 posted on 12/07/2006 9:33:54 PM PST by Black Republican for Bush (Never trust a democrat with foreign policy.)
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To: Black Republican for Bush
"Let's realize that any meaningful talk would involve appeasement. Iran and Syria would ask for alot. That is a road to nowhere."

If we do it, it will be to make the far left feel all warm and fuzzy. It won't accomplish anything concrete. Actually it might result in devastating compromises.

77 posted on 12/07/2006 9:34:12 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

"Oh..I believe what you say and more..much more."

Thank you.

You stated that Rummy was the sacrificial lamb. I think that if that is true, and I believe it may be, he was a willing sacrificial lamb for the reasons you and I stated.


78 posted on 12/07/2006 9:34:56 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Earthdweller

"Now there is a great idea...Give it to the youth, of America of course!"

From this statement of yours, I am thinking that you and I both would find better questions and more information if a class of first graders was able to ask all questions at the Presidential press conferences than what the White House press corp asks.


79 posted on 12/07/2006 9:38:39 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Earthdweller

I totally agree. The war is on. We can't be side-tracked by commissions and panels that develop strategy under a green banker's lamp.

President Bush needs to continue the march. We will prevail. Our troops expect resolve and scorn appeasers. To hell with them. Full speed ahead.


80 posted on 12/07/2006 9:49:33 PM PST by juggernaut
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